Dear Joao,
Yes of course, and P130 is a generalization of R58. So, both are correct.
Best,
Martin
João Oliveira wrote:
Dear Mr. Köhler,
Your suggestion "to have a predicate in CIDOC-CRM to indicate that
one Information Object is not identical with but derived from another"
is part of the new FRBRoo ontology (an
extension of CIDOC CRM with FRBR concepts). See
http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr/frbr_drafts.html
The desired feature is the "R58 is derivative of (has derivative)"
property.
R58 Scope Note:
"This property associates an instance of F1 Work which modifies the
content of another
instance of F1 Work with the latter. The property R58.1 has type of this
property allows for
specifying the kind of derivation, such as adaptation, summarization etc."
In your example, the R58.1 Type should be "transcription normalization" .
In addition, the definition of "F2 Expression" Class (subclass of
E73 Information Object) will help you deal with the Work expression in
an independent way of the used symbol system (pictorial/illustration,
language/text etc.).
Regards
João Alberto de Oliveira Lima
On Jan 11, 2008 3:15 PM, Dieter Köhler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Trying to record the structure of a manuscript
and its digital reproductions with CIDOC CRM
4.2.2 I come across the following problem. I
have a digital facsimile and a normalized
transcription of a manuscript. The facsimile
consists of scans of the individual pages of the
manuscript; the transcription is normalized by
correcting misspellings, skipping deleted
passages and rearranging some others (according
to insertion marks in the manuscript).
I understand that
(A) the physical manuscript is an E84 Information Carrier
(B) a digital scan is an E73 Information Object
(more precisely an E36 Visual Item)
(C) a transcription is an E73 Information Object
(I am not sure whether I can use E33 Linguistic
Object here, because some paragraphs contain tiny
non-linguistic illustrations within the textual sequence)
(D) a particular file on the hard disk containing
a scan is an E84 Information Carrier
(E) a particular file on the hard disk containing
a transcription is an E84 Information Carrier
The following relations apply:
(A) P128 carries (B)
(A) P128 carries (C)
(D) P128 carries (B)
(E) P128 carries (C)
(B) and (C) are distinct E73 Information Objects,
but nevertheless the transcription (C) is an
interpretation of the visual clues of (B),
expressed for example in: "The vertical stroke in
the first line is the word 'I'."
I think it would be useful to have a predicate in
CIDOC-CRM to indicate that one Information Object
is not identical with but derived from
another. The closest predicates in meaning are
'P67 refers to' and 'P138 represents'. However,
it seems that neither is really accurate here. Any ideas?
Dieter Köhler
Dr. Dieter Köhler, M.A.
Wissenschaftlicher Assistent
Institut für Philosophie und
Studienzentrum Multimedia
Universität Karlsruhe (TH)
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