Dear Vladimir,

Thank you very much for your comment.

Actually the domain - range restriction of R10 to F3, F5 is the kind of 
intension change
that justifies the subproperty. If you may interpret the label "has type" and
"example" as synonymous, has no relevance. Labels are only mnemonics. Note, that
the CRM is not a dictionary that would explain the meaning of English words or 
expressions.

Domain and Range of properties are part of their intension. Beyond that, only 
the
scope note matters.

Actually the link P137 should be declared as subproperty of P2. This needs
inverting P137. This is an issue for the next meeting.

The notion of "exemplifying" in P137 is that of selecting ONE instance to be
a particularly good representative. This is not the sense of R10, but similar
to the "representative assignment" in FRBRoo, which we put now in an Annex of 
the document.

Best,

Martin


Vladimir Ivanov wrote:
Dear All,

In fact, each property (R10, P137, etc.) could be treated as a couple : R10F(orward) and R10B(ackward) or P137F and P137B.

Maybe, the issue is in the order of property names. "is example of #R10F# (has example) #R10B#" and "is exemplified by #P137F# (exemplifies) #P137B#" .

and property hierarchy: R10F Subproperty of P137B R10B Subproperty of P137F

looks normal.
-----

Or, we could imagine inverse order:

"is example of #R10F# (has example) #R10B#" and "is exemplified by #P137B# (exemplifies) #P137F#" .

and correspond property hierarchy.


As for the first part of the letter,
We could apply a simple test:

To be _an example of_ someting is to _have type_ of something
isn't it?


Best,
Vladimir.


-----Original Message-----
From: "JoЦo Oliveira" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:43:07 -0200
Subject: [Crm-sig] FRBRoo R10's superproperty

Dear All,

    The R10 property has the following definition:

R10 is example of (has example)
Domain: F5 Item
Range: F3 Manifestation Product Type
Subproperty of: P2 has type

    According CIDOC CRM document, "the intension of
the subproperty extends the intension of the superproperty,
i.e. its traits are more restrictive than that of its superproperty"

   To be a "example" is not a "more restrictive" case of to be a "type".
   I think the most appropriate CIDOC CRM superproperty for R10
should be:

P137: is exemplified by (exemplifies)
Domain: E55 Type
Image: E1 CRM Entity.

   So, to align the subproperty intension with the superproperty intension,
 I think it's necessary to redefine (invert Range/Domain) R10:

 R10 has example (is example of)
Domain: F3 Manifestation Product Type
Range: F5 Item
Subproperty of: P137 is exemplified by (exemplifies)

   Now,
F3 Manifestation Product Type <has example> F5 Item
   is a specific case of
E55 Type <is exemplied by> E1 CRM Entity.

Regards

Joao Lima


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