Dear Bernhard,

I rather meant with "test data" the real data records, instances of the schema 
of a local system, rich enough to cover the relevant cases,
to demonstrate how their export results in CRM instances,
and/or CRM instances provided as test vectors, to demonstrate how their input 
results in reasonable local data.

What did you have in mind? How would you show, that an RDBMS exports correctly 
its data into CRM instances?

Best,

Martin



Bernhard Schiemann wrote:
martin wrote:
Dear All,

The current, well received text about CRM compatibility we are preparing to 
propose as ISO
amendment, contains the following last phrase, which caused comments on what 
the certification procedure will be:

A) The provider should be able to demonstrate the claim with suitable test data. A third party should be able to verify the claim with suitable test data.

One alternative is this:
B)
The provider should be able to demonstrate the claim with suitable test data 
and the grant of a certificate by a certification authority
  (CA). A trusted third party recognised as a CA in this practice area, should 
be able to verify the credentials of the provider applying
  for such certificate and thus, of its claim with suitable test data,before 
issuing the certificate so that the users can trust the
information in the CA certificates.

  In any case, the provider should be able to demonstrate its claim according 
to certain procedures included in any applicable certificate
  practice related statement and must also comply with any applicable 
certification policies of the respective CA.

Second alternative:
C)
The provider should be able to demonstrate the claim with suitable test data. The provider should be able to demonstrate its claim according to certain procedures included in any applicable certificate practice related statement. The provider should either make evidence of these procedures publicly available, so that any third party should be able to verify the claim with suitable test data, or acquire a certificate by a certification authority (CA). A trusted third party recognised as a CA in this practice area, should be able to verify the credentials of the provider applying for such certificate and thus, of its claim with suitable test data, before issuing the certificate so that the users can trust the information in the CA certificates.
May I add an alternative?: (It is a variant of C)
D)
The provider is able to demonstrate the claim with suitable test data.
The test data consist either of a controlled vocabulary as a subset of
the text specification ISO 21127:2006 (:2008/9) or in a formal language
. A  set of test data is provided by the CRM SIG.

The provider should either make evidence of these procedures publicly
available, so that any third party is able to verify the claim
with suitable test data, or acquire a certificate by a CRM certification
authority (CA). A trusted third party recognized as a CRM CA in this
practice area, is able to verify the credentials of the provider
applying for a CRM certificate and thus, of its claim with suitable
test data, before issuing the CRM certificate so that users can trust
the information in the CA CRM certificates. Any company or group who
wishes to be recognized as CRM CA request this status at the CRM SIG.



Best
Bernhard


Please vote on these alternatives until Thursday morning. Reply either to crm-sig or to [email protected], in case you would not like your vote to become public.

Best,

Martin



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