Dear Martin, Dear all, > I rather meant with "test data" the real data records, instances of the > schema of a local system, rich enough to cover the relevant cases, > to demonstrate how their export results in CRM instances, > and/or CRM instances provided as test vectors, to demonstrate how their > input results in reasonable local data. If so, the real data records have a structure (schema of the local system). If one would provide or wants to provide correct export CRM instances a formal language is needed (for RDBMS, it could be SQL, ...). Or other formal languages based on logics.
If one wants to proof compatibility of his/her text with the CRM ISO text, it might be a viable way to formulate this text in the controlled vocabulary of the CRM. > > What did you have in mind? How would you show, that an RDBMS exports > correctly its data into CRM instances? I would transform the CRM into a formal language (e.g. OWL-DL) and then export the instances of the RDBMS in terms of the CRM model. Then it is possible to test compatibility of the RDBMS instances against the CRM OWL-DL "schema". If something is unclear, please ask! Best, Bernhard > > Best, > > Martin > > > > Bernhard Schiemann wrote: >> martin wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> The current, well received text about CRM compatibility we are >>> preparing to propose as ISO >>> amendment, contains the following last phrase, which caused comments >>> on what the certification procedure will be: >>> >>> A) The provider should be able to demonstrate the claim with suitable >>> test data. A third party should be able to verify the claim with >>> suitable test data. >>> >>> One alternative is this: >>> B) >>> The provider should be able to demonstrate the claim with suitable >>> test data and the grant of a certificate by a certification authority >>> (CA). A trusted third party recognised as a CA in this practice >>> area, should be able to verify the credentials of the provider applying >>> for such certificate and thus, of its claim with suitable test >>> data,before issuing the certificate so that the users can trust the >>> information in the CA certificates. >>> >>> In any case, the provider should be able to demonstrate its claim >>> according to certain procedures included in any applicable certificate >>> practice related statement and must also comply with any applicable >>> certification policies of the respective CA. >>> >>> Second alternative: >>> C) >>> The provider should be able to demonstrate the claim with suitable >>> test data. The provider should be able to demonstrate its claim >>> according to certain procedures included in any applicable >>> certificate practice related statement. >>> The provider should either make evidence of these procedures publicly >>> available, so that any third party should be able to verify the claim >>> with suitable test data, or acquire a certificate by a certification >>> authority (CA). A trusted third party recognised as a CA in this >>> practice area, should be able to verify the credentials of the >>> provider applying for such certificate and thus, of its claim with >>> suitable test data, before issuing the certificate so that the users >>> can trust the information in the CA certificates. >> May I add an alternative?: (It is a variant of C) >> D) >> The provider is able to demonstrate the claim with suitable test data. >> The test data consist either of a controlled vocabulary as a subset of >> the text specification ISO 21127:2006 (:2008/9) or in a formal language >> . A set of test data is provided by the CRM SIG. >> >> The provider should either make evidence of these procedures publicly >> available, so that any third party is able to verify the claim >> with suitable test data, or acquire a certificate by a CRM certification >> authority (CA). A trusted third party recognized as a CRM CA in this >> practice area, is able to verify the credentials of the provider >> applying for a CRM certificate and thus, of its claim with suitable >> test data, before issuing the CRM certificate so that users can trust >> the information in the CA CRM certificates. Any company or group who >> wishes to be recognized as CRM CA request this status at the CRM SIG. >> >> >> >> Best >> Bernhard >> >> >>> Please vote on these alternatives until Thursday morning. Reply >>> either to crm-sig or to [email protected], in case you would not >>> like your vote to become public. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Martin >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > -- ************************************************************* Bernhard Schiemann, Dipl. Ing. 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