Dear Vladimir,

I am not sure if merging these classes is a good idea, and provides much help. We should not forget that the CRM is an ontology and not a database schema. If you declare in ResearchSpace a class "Part Transfer" , you are completely CRM compatible. (See also definition of CRM compatibility!) If a class instance is instance of one or two classes is a concern of local optimization, not of the conceptual logic.

The case is not so analogous to Acquisition of Move as it may seem. Business transactions are by nature agreements between parties, but taking something from an object does not mean integrating it into another one per default, nor is the combination of part removal and addition something that would require a particular unity of activity, as buying/selling.

In general, Part Removal can be taking a sample from a mummy, cutting the nose of the Sphinx and whatever. So, I do not see which "meaningless" situation you refer to. For instance, I may have a part of an ancient Greek temple, I know when it was stolen, and by whom, but not from which temple. I may have a reference of things being stolen from a particular temple, but don't know what has been removed. I may have reference of some things being stolen from from temples. I may remove a stone of the common wall of two(!!) buildings.

"Meaningful Situations" are typically bound to extremely special contexts relative to the wide scope of the CRM. It is the power of the CRM to foresee such "exceptions". Please not, that the CRM foresees quantifications for P112. So, some of the situations you describe are situations of lack of knowledge, not situations of the reality the CRM refers to. For instance, E80 Part Removal requires that something is diminished, but this may be unknown.

At information integration time, restrictions to "force you to express only meaningful situations" are a very bad idea. Data have to come in correct already, or providers must change the source, which is rarely in a CRM form. Consistency constraints have to be enforced at data entry time, where
possible situations are better known.

Best,

Martin


On 6/12/2012 4:48 μμ, Joshan Mahmud wrote:
In addition to Vladimir's question we use these classes always together and I'm 
not sure when they would be separated.

What would be really helpful is in addition to the comments in the ontology 
CIDOC provided a range of examples of each predicate and class from a real 
world 'meaningful' situation to a set of RDF triples.  This would demystify how 
CRM and should be used.

Thanks
Josh



On 6 Dec 2012, at 14:23, "Vladimir Alexiev" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

What would the generic case mean? For example:
removed=<object1>, diminished=<collectionA>, added=<object2>, 
augmented=<collectionB>
And what do these cases mean?
Part Removal: removed=<object1>, diminished=<collectionA>, 
diminished=<collectionB>
Part Removal: removed=<object1>
Part Removal: diminished=<collectionA>
Part Removal:

CRM allows you to express situations, but it doesn't force you to express only 
meaningful situations.


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