Dear all,

I am struggling to understand P152 "has parent", especially the description 
"Superproperty of paths for was born – gave birth, was born, by father", which 
seems to be a tidied-up version of the outcome of issue 199. 

1. First subproperty, then fully developed path: Does the description mean that 
P152 has a hypothetical subproperty "PX has biological parent", which in turn 
is a shortcut for "P21 Person (Child) P98i was born E67 Birth P96 by mother E21 
Person (Biological Mother)" and "P21 (Child) P98i was born E67 Birth P97 from 
father E21 (Biological Father)"? 

2. First fully developed path, then sub-path: Is P152 a shortcut for a 
hypothetical fully developed path "E21 (Child) P98i was born E67 Birth PY by 
parent E21 (Parent)" with the property "PY by parent" proposed in issue 199 
(but apparently rejected in this form), and then PY is a superproperty of P96 
and P97, or the whole path is a superpath of P98i E67 P96/P97? 

If the former, will there also be fully developed paths for "E21 PZ has legal 
parent E21", which would replace "E39 Actor (child) P143i was joined by E85 
Joining P144 joined with E74 Group (family)" for e.g. adoptions? If the latter, 
why is E67 Birth involved in legal parenthood? And what about social parents? 

Would it be easier not to claim any formal relationship between P152 and 
P96/P97 for the time being?

Thanks, 
Wolfgang


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