Hi Richard , All,

I am slightly confused about this discussion.

The purpose of the scope notes is to clarify the meaning of the entities and 
relationships that make up the CRM. The CRM models real world things both 
material and non-material.

Inclusion of a named graph example in the scope notes does not affect the 
technical independence of the standard. It simple says that this is an example 
(in this case) of a propositional object. We need to have examples that are 
practically useful and mean something to people.

In that context it personally bothers me not whether we have an example of a 
named graph or indeed other examples from other schema formats -  as long as it 
helps people to understand what a propositional object is (and its scope). We 
could equally use examples from other data schema worlds and again it would say 
nothing about the technical implementation of the CRM. None of these examples 
would affect the standard in terms of its neutrality. It's an illustrative 
scope note, but is not part of the standard in the context you describe.

Examples need to be wide and varied and cater for all the different types of 
people that use the CRM and want to understand how it works.

Cheers,

Dominic



From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Light
Sent: 28 July 2014 09:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] *** ISSUE *** Revision of scope note for E73 Information 
Object to specifically include named graphs

Martin,

I thought that a major merit of the CRM was that it was an abstract model, 
which could be instantiated using whatever technology was felt to be 
appropriate.  That being the case, I would be concerned if RDF-specific 
techniques were presented to the world as the only way in which a particular 
challenge ("implementing argumentation systems ...") could be tackled using the 
CRM.  Or are you talking specifically about RDF implementations of the CRM?

Why can't "premises and conclusions" be modelled using reification, so they can 
then be given a unique URI? This is the sort of approach which the BM has 
successfully deployed, as I understand it.  I would be grateful if someone 
could provide a really simple concrete example which shows the need for the 
named graph approach.

To pick up on the suggestion of using the AAT as an example: in what way is the 
AAT a named graph?  Surely it's a SKOS Concept Scheme (plus)?  I think it would 
be impossible to give an example of a "well-known" named graph, for the reasons 
Simon has been explaining.

Richard

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