Dear All,

This is a concrete proposal to be discussed as issue.

Best,

Martin

On 10/4/2017 7:09 μμ, Robert Sanderson wrote:
I would add to that, that a class that only has relationships that are 
sub-properties of the parent class’s relationships does not count as “key”.

For example, the subclasses of E13 Attribute Assignment seem to simply be using 
class as a means of expressing the predicate of the reified relationship.  This 
could more cleanly be done with a P2 on E13 that refers to a Type … which is 
what we have to do for anything other than Condition, Identifier, Measurement, 
or Type assignments.  For example, Attribution and Dating are key assertions 
that museums make … yet they do not have assignment classes.

Of the classes below, my opinions:

E20:  In the core CRM, it seems like a pointless node between E19 and E21. For 
herbaria and natural history museums, on the other hand, it seems a crucial 
distinction.
E22:  It doesn’t have its own properties, but is important as the merging point 
in the hierarchy for E19,E24.
E25:  No opinion. As a join of E24 and E26 it makes mapping easier.
E27:  Delete as unnecessary leaf node.
E34, E37:  Delete as unnecessary leaf nodes
E38: I started off trying to justify … but the distinction with E36 is 
meaningless. Delete.
E40: Delete, unnecessary leaf node
E44, E45, E46, E47, E48, E49, E50, E51:  Delete. Just use Appellation.

Rob

On 4/9/17, 7:26 AM, "Crm-sig on behalf of Athanasios Velios" 
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

     Dear all,
During the last SIG meeting Martin took a couple of chances to emphasise
     that CRM classes should always have properties. This is a bit
     inconsistent with one of the principles from the "Minimality" section of
     the CRM introductory text (version 6.2.2) which says:
"A class is not declared unless it is required as the domain or range of
     a property not appropriate to its superclass, or *it is a key concept in
     the practical scope.*"
It seems to me that it is difficult to define what a *key* concept is
     and why it qualifies as a CRM class instead of a E55 Type. I checked
     which CRM entities do not have any properties at all (again version
     6.2.2) - some of them are already being discussed in open issues. I have
     produced a list alongside some relevant issues where I could find them:
E20_Biological_Object
        http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-76-contemporary-naming-procedure
     (property for E20 proposed but rejected)
E22_Man-Made_Object E25_Man-Made_Feature E27_Site
        http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-225-how-to-model-subfeatures (E27 Site
     is a E26 Physical Feature)
E34_Inscription E37_Mark E38_Image E40_Legal_Body
        http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-328-rights-model - also discussed at
     the last SIG meeting
E45_Address
        http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-305-actor-appellation (E45 to remain -
     justification unclear)
E47_Spatial_Coordinates E48_Place_Name
        http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-305-actor-appellation (keep with
     justification: "don't destruct gazetteers")
E50_Date
        http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-305-actor-appellation (proposal to
     delete - to be updated)
http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-260-review-specializations-of-appellation
     (to merge with E49 Time Appellation)
E84_Information_Carrier If I understand this correctly, for each class we should check if we are
     missing important properties and a) if not, remove the class or, b) if
     yes, add the missing properties. If none of these two happens then we
     need define better what a *key* concept is.
I believe Franco and Martin had a similar discussion about Appellations
     last summer (http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-305-actor-appellation).
All the best, Thanasis --
     Dr. Athanasios Velios
     Reader in Documentation - Ligatus
     Chair of the CCW Research Degrees Sub-committee
     University of the Arts London
     www.ligatus.org.uk
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