On 9/20/2017 5:43 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Dear Franco, Martin,

To make sure I understand your comment, are you pointing out the direction of the 
predicate is the opposite to the direction implied by the scope note?  The predicate 
is that the subject X contains Y  (X > Y) whereas the scope note expresses the 
relationship as the subject X being contained in Y (X < Y).

If so, then I agree it would be nice to change the text of the scope note to 
have it align with the relationship’s direction :)
Right! but my comment was to substantiate what we mean by "containing".

Best,

Martin

Rob


On 9/20/17, 5:42 AM, "Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci" 
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

     it looks very useful, but:
“O25 contains (is contained in)
     [...] an instance of S10 Material Substantial was or is contained for some 
time in [...]”
Of course: 'X is contained in Y' means that X is contained in Y :-) Was the scope note proposed by M. de la Palisse? Apart from that, it’s a great idea. Franco Prof. Franco Niccolucci
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     PIN - U. of Florence
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> Il giorno 20 set 2017, alle ore 11:38, martin <[email protected]> ha scritto:
     >
     > Dear All,
     >
     >
     >
     > I propose the following property for CRMSci:
     >
     > O25 contains (is contained in)
     >
     >
     > Domain:              S10 Material Substantial
     >
     > Range:                S10 Material Substantial
     >
     > Superproperty of:E18 Physical Thing. P46 is composed of (forms part of): 
E18 Physical Thing
     >
     > Quantification:    many to many (0,n:0,n)
     >
     >
     > Scope note:         This property describes that an instance of S10 
Material Substantial was or is contained for some time in another instance of S10 
Material Substantial regardless if the identity of the involved instances is based 
on the persistence of the form of material or on material substance changing form.
     >
     >
     >
     > In First Order Logic:
     >
     >                            O25(x,y) ⊃ E18(x)
     >
     > O25(x,y) ⊃ E18(y)
     >
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