Dear Richard,
Thank you very much for your valuable comments. I have introduced this
more technical introduction in the new version, in order to give
a more practical context.
Would you like to write a roadmap?
"assuming they know little or nothing about this subject" is by sure not
the intention. The document is definitely not meant as an introduction
or a self-teaching material, but as a compact reference after having got
other training about the matter. This should be stated in the very
beginning.
This statement "some of the examples provided are currently too cryptic
to be helpful." is too general to be helpful ;-);-)...please tell us
which ones:-)
All the best,
Martin
On 10/19/2017 3:14 PM, Richard Light wrote:
Martin,
I have now had chance to read this document. I agree that, once
finalised, it will become a useful guide to the modelling approach
adopted by the CRM SIG. Would it be possible for us to have a summary
of the conclusions that were reached when it was discussed at the
recent SIG meeting?
At 66 pages, the document is stretching the meaning of "short"
(despite our commitment to maintaining independence from scale - this
is a pretty large dwarf!).
It lacks a 'road map' which tells the reader how to go about getting
value from it, assuming they know little or nothing about this subject
when they start reading. (Come to that, do we have a clear idea of
the background knowledge and intentions of the typical/target reader?
If so, these should maybe be stated.)
The general introduction, in particular, is very dense and
theoretical, and will probably cause most readers to give up before
they even get to the meat of the document. If this introduction is to
remain, I suggest that it is included as an appendix. I would also
place the glossary at the end, since it interrupts the flow of the
text. (Where glossary terms appear in the text, they could have a
pop-up containing their definition: in that way, they would actually
be useful.) Instead of the General introduction, I would include a
short outline of the main structure of the document: process model,
engineering principles, and conceptual modelling checklist. You could
briefly explain that the CRM has a particular modelling approach (and
hence the need for this document), without going into detail.
I suggest that live cross-reference links to specific sections of the
published CRM would help to ground the text, and would give these
modelling ideas a concrete context. This might also be an effective
way of giving examples in the modelling principles section: some of
the examples provided are currently too cryptic to be helpful.
Best wishes,
Richard
On 2017-09-26 5:44 PM, martin wrote:
Dear All,
In the next CRM-SIG meeting we will discuss the following document:
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/technicalpapersPage
"<http://www.cidoc-crm.org/technicalpapersPage#>Principles for
Modelling Ontologies: A Short Reference Guide
<http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Resources/principles-for-modelling-ontologies-a-short-reference-guide>"
This is a first draft trying to capture basic ideas of the CRM
development methodology in hopefully simple terms with simple rules
to follow. This could become a sort of standard reference for all
those that need extensions of the CRM, or in the course of mapping
are wondering if the need extensions or not.
We hope to close a very important intellectual gap with this guide.
It is very important that it stays simple, comprehensible and
comprehensive for all sorts of audiences. Therefore it does not aim
at extended scientific justifications, but we need as much feedback
as possible.
All the best,
martin
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