On 15/05/2018 20:57, Martin Doerr wrote:
> Dear Richard,
>
> In addition to Franco's comments, not all things having a temporal
> dimension are activities. We'll discuss more next week.
> I'd not think results of activities can be activities. Shoes are not
> shoe-making.
>
> We have here two aspects:
> A) the legal declaration or convention
> B) the administrative and other activities taking place in the areas,
> respecting or being fostered, encouraged or initiated within these
> limits. In that sense, yes, the legal act has consequences, not really
> results. Isn't it?
>
> Currently, we tend to model them as kinds of geopolitical units, i.e., B)
>
> We discuss the new extension CRMSoc (social), to model legal
> constructs respected or not by some communities. They form sorts of
> legal "states" (the heavily overloaded word "state", we try to break
> down into more specifics).
It will indeed be interesting to discuss all this properly next week in
Lyon. Pat's email also reminds me that we already have classes like F11
Corporate Body and LRM-E8 Collective Agent, which ought to be harmonized
with the conclusions on required classes for 'states' reached by CRMsoc.
Richard
>
> The tension between paper declarations and actual, observable
> administration is a problem. Therefore I prefer the observable.
>
> Martin
>
> On 5/15/2018 7:13 PM, Richard Light wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Further to my previous question, and following a trawl through
>> CRMgeo, I have another one. :-)
>>
>> How should one represent an administrative unit (such as Burgess
>> Hill, being the entity which is managed by Burgess Hill Town Council)
>> using the CRM? It's not a place (certainly not as defined in
>> E53_Place); nor is it an E74_Group. It's the result of collective
>> human actions and decisions. Administrative units have a temporal
>> dimension, so should be a subclass of E7_Activity. They have
>> physical extent (possibly changing over time). There are different
>> types of administrative unit, some of which are specifically relevant
>> to cultural heritage studies: registration districts; census 'pieces'.
>>
>> Administrative units are created, destroyed, merged with other
>> administrative units, etc. They have relationships with other
>> administrative units, both generic containment/adjacency ones, and
>> also more specific 'administered by' ones.
>>
>> Many local museum collections cite administrative units when
>> recording information about the provenance of objects ("metalworking
>> tools from Little Potton"). They are central to much genealogical
>> research.
>>
>> What do others think? Out of scope?
>>
>> Richard
>>
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