Dear Robert,
Good question!
On 2/23/2019 1:21 AM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Hi Martin,
Looks good overall to me.
One question… is this E2 or E92? In other words, should the social
“state” be able to take into account the spatial extent as well as the
temporal extent?
As an example use case, the ownership by the Getty of a particular
statue is being challenged by the Italian high court, so the ownership
“state” would not be valid in all places. Equally, some nations do not
recognize same-sex marriage, and thus the marriage state could be
excluded from those places.
Otherwise, I imagine this could be modeled with a reference from the
state to a Group (the society) that holds the state to be valid?
I've thought about that.
Yes, one of the conditions being, that the*type* of binding is respected
by a Group. This does not mean, that I am only married as long as I stay
within the jurisdiction of the respective country, e.g., being on
holiday or in a spacecraft. Therefore, it is not the place. We will need
to model this however explicitly.
Further, these kinds of binding themselves do not fill identifiable
spatial volumes, as spaces of jurisdiction do. Therefore, to my
understanding, they are not E92.
E92 is not just time and place, it is identifiable spacetime volumes.
Martin
Rob
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Dear All,
Here my attempt for the first kind of "state". Please comment!
SOxxx Formal Social Binding
Subclass of: E2 Temporal Entity
Scope note: This class comprises phenomena of formally defined and
socially respected bindings between different instances of E39 Actors
or between multiple actors and instances of E70 Thing. Instances of
SOxxx Formal Social Binding come into being and end with an explicit
act of declaration or indirectly through other publicly acknowledged
events, such as via heritage at birth or death. Depending on their
type, they are associated with characteristic rights and obligations,
which are subject to the formal legal system of the respecting
society, regardless whether this is based on written laws or oral
tradition.
Formal Social Bindings are not observable as such, even though the
behavior of involved actors may suggest their existence, such as being
married. They are exclusively a consequence of the establishing event,
which should be kept as social memory in a persistent documented form
or as oral tradition, and the continued respect of this /kind /of
binding by a target community. For instance, a community may declare a
certain kind of marriage as invalid from some date on, and later
redeclare it as valid. Their existence does not depend on the
existence of social memory. Documents may be lost or involved actors
may not have been aware of the respective establishing events, but
later evidence of the establishing events may be found. In these
cases, the society may not act according to the respective rights and
obligations as long as the fact remains unknown, but is obliged to
when the necessary evidence has been provided. Involved actors may
have difficulties proving the existence of the binding to authorities
when respective documents are lost, but that does not affect their
actual existence. However, certain legal systems may require in
certain kinds of cases the provision of evidence itself as part of the
establishing event.
In some contexts, Formal Social Bindings are also called /social
institutions/. Examples include memberships, employments, ownerships,
rights of use, marriage, parenthood and others. In documentation
practice, instances of Formal Social Bindings may by shortcut by
simple binary relations, such as “is married to”.
Properties:
SPxx1 binds (is bound by): E39 Actor
I believe we need a “social binding type” which “is respected by” a
Group.
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Dr. Martin Doerr
Honorary Head of the
Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
Institute of Computer Science
Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,
GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
Vox:+30(2810)391625
Email: [email protected]
Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl