Dear All,
I support this issue.
My only concern is the following phrase: " This property is similar to
P56 bears feature (is found on),". To my opinion, there must not be
"similar" properties in the CRM. Whatever the distinction, it must be
explicit and decidable.
I suggest two different interpretations: The new property being
superproperty of P56 (preferred) or
definitely distinct. In the latter case, the range should be Physical
Object.
A confusion with P46 should not occur, because this is about location. I
would not exclude components from the new property, such as a chessman
being in a box, whereas a set of chessman without a box would be not
within anything.
Best,
martin
On 7/12/2019 9:32 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Dear all,
Following from the discussion about how to represent objects that
contain or otherwise provide a location for other objects, without
necessarily instantiating a Place for them to be located at, I would
like to propose a new property for CRM Base, following the pattern of
P8 took place on or within. Martin suggested “is located on or within”
however this is the label of the inverse of P59 has section, which is
used as part of the full path. To have both properties with the same
label would be incredibly confusing!
As a first attempt at a definition, please see below.
Rob
Pxxx holds or supports (is held or supported by)
Domain: E18 Physical Thing
Range: E18 Physical Thing
Quantification: many to many
Scope Note:
This property relates one E18 Physical Thing which acts as a container
or support, such as a shelf, for another E18 Physical Thing. Pxxx
holds or supports is a shortcut of the more fully developed path from
the domain E18 Physical Thing through P59 has section, E53 Place, P53i
is former or current location of, to the range E18 Physical Thing.
This property is similar to P56 bears feature (is found on), except
that the range resource can be any Physical Thing rather than only a
Physical Feature, and it is not a sub property of P46 is composed of,
as the held or supported object is not a component of the container or
support.
This property can be used to avoid explicitly instantiating the E53
Place which is defined by a Physical Thing, especially when the only
intended use of that Physical Thing is to act as a container or
surface for the storage of other Physical Things. The place’s
existence is defined by the existence of the container or surface, and
will go out of existence at the same time as the Destruction of the
container or surface. As such, there are very few situations in which
the identity of the place needs to be distinguished from the defining
physical thing.
Examples:
· The archival folder (E22) “6” _/holds or supports/_ the
piece of paper (E22) carrying the text of a letter from Alloway to Sleigh
· The artist’s materials box (E22) labeled “VG6” _/holds or
supports/_ Van Gogh’s paintbrush 23 (E22)
· The storage box “VG” (E22) _/holds or supports/_ the
artist’s materials box (E22) labeled “VG6”
· The bronze coin bank “72.AC.99” (E22) _/holds or supports/_ silver
coin “72.AC.99-1” (E22)
· The bookshelf “GRI-708.1” (E22) _/holds or supports/_ the book
(E22) “Catalog of Paintings in the J. Paul Getty Museum”
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