On 10/18/2019 9:48 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
(Snipping to avoid the list’s length filter)
I agree that it would be lovely if everyone recorded the measurement
activities in detail, including with margins of error. But this isn’t
a physics documentation group, it’s museums. That others do it better
than we do is great, but doesn’t address the current practice of the
domain and its information systems.
Well, we are concerned with conservation analytical methods, and
archaeometrics, which do use error margins. In case of sloppy data by
museums, I'd argue we really do not need to care about precise and true
values at all, isn't it? We can interpret the absence of error margins
(P90a,b) as an approximation without known errors. Isn't it?
Best,
Martin
That said, the removal of the “true quantity” part of the scope note
addresses at least the semantic part of the concern, that it’s
currently impossible to abide by the definition. The implementation
concern of asserting that two approximations are related can be
considered separately 😊
Rob
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I think there’s some very similar practice however of providing
multiple values for the same dimension, that at least are
roundings from the same measurement.
I wold see this as different. Measurements use some device and
procedure. Properly document, we understand their behaviour. A spot
marked on a map near something has no particular procedure associated.
For example the Met’s descriptions have “H. 14 5/16 in. (36.4 cm)”
and similar [1], ours are the other way around “23 x 16.5 cm (9
1/16 x 6 ½ in.)” [2] as does MFA Boson [3], the NGA [4] and many
others.
With P90a and P90b we could give a margin of error, but indeed
that is not common practice that I can find.
Well, in natural sciences it is. That's what physicist learn to do...
Serious publications require it always.
> I suggest to regard any dimension as an approximation, except for
counting stable aggregates of things.
Do you mean then to remove the “true quantity” description from
the scope notes?
Indeed:-)
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