Thanks George, Martin!

For the form, perhaps we could split out a comment section for each, to avoid 
having to manually count YES in the Other field?
Or for general discussion, perhaps we bring it back to the list directly?

In particular:

The examples for P130 and P156 would benefit from the Exx numbers in 
parentheses, as per other property examples.

I agree that the coffee cup shows features of the starbucks logo, in that it 
shows the Visual Item so it is technically correct … but I’m not sure that it 
sets the right precedent, as there is a better property for that (P65, a 
sub-sub-property of P130). I think that examples should be examples of the 
current class or property whenever possible.

Rob



From: Crm-sig <[email protected]> on behalf of Martin Doerr 
<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 5:50 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Crm-sig] E-Votes , rules

Dear All,

I'd like to add that the VETO function is meant to start a discussion for 
reformulation of the proposed solution, typically related to controversial 
evidence, lacking evidence, a proposal for a more effective solution, or 
violation of modelling principles, as mentioned below. After due discussion, 
the issue can be put for e-mail vote in a different form, or will be discussed 
in face-to-face meetings.

I may remind you that all crm-sig members are entitled to call for an e-mail 
vote, if the issue has been presented in a decidable form.

Thank you George for setting this up!

Best,

Martin

On 4/16/2020 10:37 AM, George Bruseker wrote:
Dear all,

After our last meeting of the CIDOC CRM SIG (25-28 February, 2020, Athens, 
Hellenic National Committee of ICOM), we are very close to releasing a new 
official, community version of CIDOC CRM (Version 7) which will enable the 
release of official, community encodings of the standard taking into account 
the significant development work that has taken place over the past few years.

Several issues, however, have remained open which we hope to tie up as 
efficiently as possible, especially engaging e-voting wherever possible to 
speed up the process. Therefore, with this mail, I am sending you a number of 
forms on which I would like to solicit your vote regarding several proposed 
changes.

With regards to a proposed change, the possible votes are:

Yes = accept/agree
No = do not accept/agree
Other = With other you can either introduce a caveat (e.g.: 'Yes, but there is 
a typo on word x, fix it.') or you can write VETO, if you wish to stop the 
proposed change from happening, in which case you should also write a 
justification (e.g.: 'VETO, this change is unacceptable because it violates the 
following principle...')

In order to make vote counting easier, we have organised the vote questions 
into google forms. We really appreciate you taking the time to support the 
standard by contributing your voice.

Every CIDOC CRM class or property should be accompanied by at least one 
illustrative example. Therefore, a number of new examples were drawn up to fill 
in data for properties and classes that have been introduced but not yet 
provided proper examples.

1 Miscellaneous Examples

Here a number of miscellaneous classes and properties have been bundled. Please 
read the class/property scope notes and check the example and vote if you 
accept/agree with the example.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeOKih5BaD4e3Y9lakqa51Cmdtq8yJ6S8GkVtAPHidoMhntqA/viewform?usp=sf_link

2 Space Time Volume and Temporal Properties Examples

Significant innovation has occurred in the model regarding the use of space 
time volumes and means for representing temporal relations. Please read the 
class/property scope notes and check the example and vote if you accept/agree 
with the example.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf07FGPi5lbER3AJlEAXidAMYvrRQTQi2Tl1pf_XpQU_9UfiQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

3 Presence Class and Related Properties Examples

The Presence class and its related properties, as a specialisation of STV, are 
another important addition to the standard for which examples have been 
generated. Please read the class/property scope notes and check the examples 
and vote if you accept/agree with the example.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf0_502Sxk0gpoRC58YnT18Vp8E2qbH6skBiG1yboCEDplpTQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

4 New property for Presence Class

In the elaboration of the above examples, it was proposed that it may be 
desirable/necessary to introduce a new property to the presence class which 
allows the documentation of the relation between an instance of E93 Presence 
and an instance of E53 Place. Therefore, this form allows you to vote on a) if 
the new property should be introduced, b) if you accept the proposed scope note 
and c) if you accept the various examples.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSceFwCsX8HnsO551sSXh4Iol0wRLCyDyxFsbRD-mp-wuy21FA/viewform?usp=sf_link

These votes are called on April 16, 2020 and the voting period will last until 
April 30, 2020. Thank you again for your participation in this process. As we 
experiment with new ways to efficiently manage SIG matters with online tools, 
we are of course happy to have feedback on the process/tools (good or bad).

Sincerely,

George Bruseker
Vice-Chair CIDOC CRM SIG



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