Dear George,
I agree that the E81 examples were not mature for e-vote. I completely
revised all examples as homework to be discussed tomorrow, because there
are more errors in them. More examples of course welcome. I maintain
that the multiclass examples are intrinsic to the whole idea of
transformation. I understand Rob's hesitations, but I believe it is not
useful to discuss if multiple instantiation can or should be avoided
every time it appears. Either we accept it for the CRM or not. If we
accept it, we must provide reasonable examples for it.
The question when to talk about a modification or transformation should
be discussed in issue 509 on Thursday.
Here my rework for tomorrow:
Current Examples:
*
the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (transformation of
Tut-Ankh-Amun from a living person to a mummy) (E69, E81, E7)
*
The death and petrification of the people of Pompeii during the
eruption of Vesuvius in the first century B.C (E69, E81, E7)
*
The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
from a church to a stable for the French cavalry in 1795 (following
Napoleon’s invasion)
*
The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
building from printing house to a bookshop in 2006
New Examples:
*
The mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun(E81,E12) [the mummification of
the body of the deceased is a human production process and
simultaneously preserves structures of the body at and before death]
*
The death, carbonization and petrification of some people of Pompeii
in 79AD by the intense heat of a pyroclastic cloud and ashes from
the Eruption of Mount Vesuvius (E69,E81)
*
The transformation of the Dominicanenkerkbuilding in Maastricht from
a church to a stable for the French cavalry in 1795
(E81,E12)[following Napoleon’s invasion]
*
The transformation of the Dominicanenkerkbuilding in Maastricht
building from printing house to a bookshop in 2006 (E81,E12)
P123 resulted in (resulted from)
Domain: E81 TransformationRange: E18 Physical ThingSubproperty of: E63
Beginning of Existence. P92 brought into existence (was brought into
existence by): E77 Persistent ItemQuantification: many to many,
necessary (1,n:0,n)
Scope note: This property identifies the E18 Physical Thing or things
that are the result of an E81 Transformation. New items replace the
transformed item or items, which cease to exist as units of
documentation. The physical continuity between the old and the new is
expressed by the link to the common Transformation.
Current Examples:
*
the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a city
hall (E81) resulted inthe City Hall of Heraklion (E22)
*
The death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81) resulted in the
Mummy of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E22 and E20)
*
The death and the carbonization by the intense heat of a gas cloud
of some people of Pompeii in 79AD (E69,E81) resulted inpetrified
bodies that could later be preserved in plaster (E22)
*
The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
into a stable (E81) resulted in Stable for the French Cavalry (E22)
*
The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
into a bookstore (E21) resulted in the Selexyz Dominicanen bookstore
(E22)
New Examples:
*
the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a city
hall (E81,E12) resulted inthe City Hall of Heraklion (E24) [AND:
P108 has produced the City Hall of Heraklion (E22)]
*
The mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81,E12) resulted inthe Mummy of
Tut-Ankh-Amun (E22,E20) [also: P108 has produced the Mummy of
Tut-Ankh-Amun (E22,E20)]
*
The death, carbonization and petrification of some people of Pompeii
in 79AD by the intense heat of a pyroclastic cloud and ashes from
the Eruption of Mount Vesuvius (E69,E81)resulted inpetrified bodies
(E20) [Some of these bodies could later be preserved in plaster]
*
The transformation of the Dominicanenkerk building in Maastricht
into a stable (E81,E12) resulted inStable for the French Cavalry
(E24) [AND: P108 has produced Stable for the French Cavalry (E24)]
*
The transformation of the Dominicanenkerk building in Maastricht
into a bookstore (E81,E12) resulted inthe Selexyz Dominicanen
bookstore (E24)[AND: P108 has produced the Selexyz Dominicanen
bookstore (E24)]
P124 transformed (was transformed by)
Domain: E81 Transformation
Range: E18 Physical Thing
Subproperty of: E64 End of Existence. P93 took out of existence (was
taken out of existence by): E77 Persistent Item
Quantification: one to many, necessary (1,n:0,1)
Scope note: This property identifies the E18 Physical Thing or things
that have ceased to exist due to a E81 Transformation.
The item that has ceased to exist and was replaced by the result of the
Transformation. The continuity between both items, the new and the old,
is expressed by the link to the common Transformation.
Current Examples:
*
the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a city
hall (E81) transformed the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion (E22)
*
the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81) transformed the
ruling Pharao Tut-Ankh-Amun (E21)
*
The death and the petrification of the people of Pompeii during the
eruption of Vesuvius transformed the people of Pompeii (E21)
*
The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
into a stable for the French cavalry (E91) transformed the
Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht.
*
The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
into a bookstore transformed the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht.
New Examples:
*
The transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a city
hall (E81,E12) transformedthe Venetian Loggia in Heraklion (E24)
*
The mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun(E81) transformedthe deceased
Pharao Tut-Ankh-Amun (E21)
*
The death, carbonization and petrification of some people of Pompeii
in 79AD by the intense heat of a pyroclastic cloud and ashes from
the Eruption of Mount Vesuvius (E69,E81)transformedsome people of
Pompeii (E21) [AND: P100 was death of some people of Pompeii (E21)]
*
The transformation of the Dominicanenkerkbuilding in Maastricht into
a stable for the French cavalry (E81,E12)transformedthe
Dominicanenkerkbuilding in Maastricht (E24).
*
The transformation of the Dominicanenkerkbuilding in Maastricht into
a bookstore (E81,E12)transformedthe Dominicanenkerkbuilding in
Maastricht (E24).
On 10/18/2020 5:50 PM, George Bruseker wrote:
I agree with Rob on this one, No and for the same reasons. I don't
think that the multi class examples are a good idea. I think it gets
into the business of how to model which is decision on a case by case
basis. I also agree that the examples for changing a building have to
do with a function of the building rather than their physical state.
They are good examples no critique there, but the examples should
unequivocally point to a physical change if they are to be for E81. So
if we were to keep the same ones we would need to talk about the
physical aspect of the transformation, such as the removal of pews and
installation of bookshelves and removal of all holy items and
installation of cash registers in order to make a bookstore out of a
church (is the change irreversible, is it in fact a transformation or
just a modification). Perhaps we could just keep the example of
pompeii and of Tut-Ankh-Amun? Otherwise, if we keep the a building
example, it should be really characteristic that some physical aspect
of its form is changed such that it has a new form. I think we risk
that this case will continuously be confused with function. Maybe if
we want an architectural example we could talk about the reuse of one
building or part of a building being used in construction of another?
I think of the example of the Little Metropolis in Athens:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Metropolis
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Metropolis> . It is made up of
spolia. Some of those spolia were transformed in the construction in
order to make new objects. There is a good article on this church
here:
https://www.academia.edu/2971890/Making_Sense_of_the_Spolia_in_the_Little_Metropolis_in_Athens
<https://www.academia.edu/2971890/Making_Sense_of_the_Spolia_in_the_Little_Metropolis_in_Athens>
On page 99 the author talks about an ancient icon of a satyr which is
reused. It is castrated and then put in a frame with two crosses. This
makes a new object and perhaps achieves our definition of
transformation vis a via an object so radically transformed it has a
new identity? If not the castrated satyr, there may be other examples
of interest in the story of this church
https://www.academia.edu/2971890/Making_Sense_of_the_Spolia_in_the_Little_Metropolis_in_Athens
<https://www.academia.edu/2971890/Making_Sense_of_the_Spolia_in_the_Little_Metropolis_in_Athens>
E81 examples
The castration of the satyr and its joining two two crosses for use in
the Little Metropolis Church
p123 resulted in
The castration of the satyr and its joining two two crosses for use in
the Little Metropolis Church resulted in the Little Metropolis
Christian Satyr Panel N7 (E22)
p124 transformed
The castration of the satyr and its joining two two crosses for use in
the Little Metropolis Church transformed the pagan Satyr icon (E22)
Again there is a change of function and symbolism going on, but there
is a particular change in physical form which destroys one object (I
assume more than castration went on to get just this figure) and
creates a new object (the identifiable panel which has a new composition)
We can discuss at SIG whether that makes any sense.
Best,
George
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 3:25 PM George Bruseker
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear all,
In 11/2018 a discussion was started to revise the scope note of
E81 Transformation and to change the ranges of its relative
properties p123 and p124. In brief, it was argued that the range
of the class was too broad (E77 Persistent Item) and that it
should be limited to E18 Physical Thing. This change was accepted.
You can find the history here:
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-404-modification-of-scope-notes-and-ranges-for-e81-p123-p124
<http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-404-modification-of-scope-notes-and-ranges-for-e81-p123-p124>
To support the new definition of the class and its properties new
examples were sought after. The HW was assigned to ET and AK. They
have come up with the following examples for the classes and
relations in question.
The proposed examples are to be found in the text pasted below.
Please vote if you accept the examples. You can vote yes, yes with
caveat or no with explanation. Please vote by October 16, 2020.
E81 Transformation
Subclass of: E63 Beginning of Existence
E64 End of Existence
Scope note:
This class comprises the events that result in the simultaneous
destruction of one or more than one E18 Physical Thing and the
creation of one or more than one E18 Physical Thing that preserves
recognizable substance and structure from the first one(s) but has
fundamentally different nature or identity.
Although the old and the new instances of E18 Physical Thing are
treated as discrete entities having separate, unique identities,
they are causally connected through the E81 Transformation; the
destruction of the old E18 Physical Thing(s) directly causes the
creation of the new one(s) using or preserving some relevant
substance and structure. Instances of E81 Transformation are
therefore distinct from re-classifications (documented using E17
Type Assignment) or modifications (documented using E11
Modification) of objects that do not fundamentally change their
nature or identity. Characteristic cases are reconstructions and
repurposing of historical buildings or ruins, fires leaving
buildings in ruins, taxidermy of specimen in natural history.
Examples:
* the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (transformation
of Tut-Ankh-Amun from a living person to a mummy) (E69, E81, E7)
* The death and petrification of the people of Pompeii during
the eruption of Vesuvius in the first century B.C (E69, E81, E7)
* The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht from a church to a stable for the French cavalry in
1795 (following Napoleon’s invasion)
* The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht building from printing house to a bookshop in 2006
In First Order Logic:
E81(x) ⊃ E63(x)
E81(x) ⊃ E64(x)
Properties:
P123 resulted in (resulted from): E18 Physical Thing
P124 transformed (was transformed by): E18 Physical Thing
P123 resulted in (resulted from)
Domain: E81 Transformation
Range: E18 Physical Thing
Subproperty of: E63 Beginning of Existence. P92 brought into
existence (was brought into existence by): E77 Persistent Item
Quantification: many to many, necessary (1,n:0,n)
Scope note: This property identifies the E18 Physical Thing or
things that are the result of an E81 Transformation. New items
replace the transformed item or items, which cease to exist as
units of documentation. The physical continuity between the old
and the new is expressed by the link to the common Transformation.
Examples:
* the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a
city hall (E81) resulted in the City Hall of Heraklion (E22)
* the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81) resulted in
the Mummy of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E22 and E20)
* The death and the carbonization by the intense heat of a 300
°C gas cloud (E69) of the people of Pompeii resulted
inpetrified and later preserved in plaster bodies (E22).
* The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht into a stable (E81) resulted in Stable for the
French Cavalry (E22)
* The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht into a bookstore (E21) resulted in the Selexyz
Dominicanen bookstore (E22)
In First Order Logic:
P123(x,y) ⊃ E81(x)
P123(x,y) ⊃ E18(y)
P123(x,y) ⊃ P92(x,y)
P124 transformed (was transformed by)
Domain:E81 Transformation
Range:E18 Physical Thing
Subproperty of: E64 End of Existence. P93 took out of existence
(was taken out of existence by): E77 Persistent Item
Quantification: one to many, necessary (1,n:0,1)
Scope note: This property identifies the E18 Physical Thing or
things that have ceased to exist due to a E81 Transformation.
The item that has ceased to exist and was replaced by the result
of the Transformation. The continuity between both items, the new
and the old, is expressed by the link to the common Transformation.
Examples:
* the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a
city hall (E81) transformed the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion (E22)
* the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81) transformed
the ruling Pharao Tut-Ankh-Amun (E21)
* The death and the petrification of the people of Pompeii
during the eruption of Vesuvius transformed the people of
Pompeii (E21)
* The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht into a stable for the French cavalry (E91)
transformed the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht.
* The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in
Maastricht into a bookstore transformed the Dominicaner Kerk
building in Maastricht.
Very much obliged,
George Bruseker
Vice Chair CIDOC CRM SIG
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