Hi George,
Sure, the .1 is inherited, what logic concerns. To be verified by the
people dealing with FOL... You are absolutely correct.
As I have pointed out in the past, the .1 corresponds to subproperty, as
long its range is Type, exactly as p2 has type. Therefore, the adequate
solution is to define a vocabulary which "embeds" the standard
subproperties, exactly as "E7 Activity" can be described as E1 ... p2
has type: "E7 Activity", which would be equally confusing.
Please describe this as an issue.
All the best,
Martin
On 8/12/2022 12:39 PM, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
Hi all,
This is for the .1 fans out there. I think it's an old discussion, but
one perhaps not unworth repeating. There are places where .1 is
introduced like 'P14 carried out by' which allow you to qualify the
relation's mode or aspect. Participated as lawyer, as doctor etc.
Now P14 has subproperties. These specialize the top level property. So
we have a property like:
https://cidoc-crm.org/Property/P23-transferred-title-from/version-7.1.1
However, P23 doesn't have .1. And yet, people record information that
modifies such properties in precisely the same way as above.
So right now we can say:
E.g.:
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P23 transferred title from French
State (E74)
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P22 transferred title to American
State (E74)
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P24 transffered title of Statue of
Liberty (E22)
But people also record:
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P23 transferred title from French
State (E74) [Gifter]
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P22 transferred title to American
State (E74) [Giftee]
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P24 transferred title of Statue of
Liberty (E22)
This is not inconsequential information but rather important as you
might document different ways in which people interact in the exchange
of ownership of things.
This forces one to retreat to P14 but then one isn't using the
standard property for transfer of ownership etc.
Therefore, I propose that it be discussed that such properties receive
the downsteam .1 from their superproperties for logical consistency
and for accurate repesentation.
Thoughts?
George
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