Hi Martin,

I think the new evidence is the new precedent of including classes in the
RDFS that are not documented in the formal standard, where those classes
are deemed not to meet the minimality requirements. Also your very
reasonable assertion to be objective in the application of those rules,
which was not clearly taken into account during the previous discussions,
otherwise they would have been removed at the time.

Rob


On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 8:59 AM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Robert, All,
>
> To my  best knowledge, Title, Site and Inscription had been on the list of
> classes potentially to be deleted, when the current principles for
> minimality had been formulated. The respective decision not to delete is
> documented in some minutes. It was extensively discussed and voted.
> Following our rules, this decision can only be undone in a new issue, if
> new, different evidence is provided. This rule is to ensure some continuity
> for a standard, and economy of work. Currently, I see no new evidence.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> On 11/8/2022 10:33 PM, Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig wrote:
>
>
> I propose that E35 Title also does not legitimately rise to the
> requirements of being a named class in CRM Base.
>
> In particular:
>
> * It does not have its own properties
> * While it is the range of P102, P102 is indistinguishable semantically
> from its super-property, P1. Read the scope notes and replace "title" with
> "name" and it comes out the same.  If that is *not* the case, then we would
> need a property that relates E1 and E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation, at
> which point we would need to give a number of E33_E41.
> * It can be replaced without semantic loss by
> E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation, perhaps further clarified by the addition
> of domain specific vocabulary (supplied title vs artist's title) using
> P2_has_type
> * It does not have any sub-classes.
>
> And so, it can safely be deleted.
>
> Rob
>
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