The list could look like this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bNmVRsSr-QX5pjCqwuji8gD-DaU5E9givpcKpNv2A2Q/edit?gid=954042918#gid=954042918


> Am 08.11.2024 um 14:24 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig 
> <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>:
> 
> Dear Wolfgang,
> 
> Thank you for checking this again!
> 
> I think putting this in a digestible initial list is not a bad idea. Since 
> CRMbase does not rely on Allen, this has the character of a reference, but 
> als a migration instruction from older CRMbase versions. Since the Allen 
> relations appear now in CRMarcheo, we should make sure the way all temporal 
> relations are presented is in the same style in CRMarchaeo and CRMbase.
> 
> Of course, complete equivalence was intended, and Allens as conjunction-only 
> from ur primitives, and our primitives as disjunction only from Allens.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Martin
> 
> On 11/8/2024 12:17 PM, Schmidle, Wolfgang via Crm-sig wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I have checked the relationships between the Allen operators and the 
>> Temporal Primitives.
>> 
>> CRMarchaeo: The stated implications are indeed equivalences.
>> 
>> AP22(x,y) ⇔ P175(x,y) ∧ P175i(x,y) ∧ P184(x,y) ∧ P184i(x,y)
>> AP23(x,y) ⇔ P176i(x,y) ∧ P184(x,y) ∧ P184i(x,y)
>> AP24(x,y) ⇔ P175(x,y) ∧ P175i(x,y) ∧ P185(x,y)
>> AP25(x,y) ⇔ P176i(x,y) ∧ P185(x,y)
>> AP26(x,y) ⇔ P176(x,y) ∧ P174i(x,y) ∧ P185(x,y)
>> AP27(x,y) ⇔ P182(x,y) ∧ P173i(x,y)
>> AP28(x,y) ⇔ P183(x,y)
>> 
>> In particular, AP28 is not (only) a subproperty of P183 but in fact 
>> equivalent.
>> 
>> 
>> CRMbase: I have assumed that the Allen operators are exhaustive, i.e. any 
>> pair of Temporal Entities satisfies exactly one Allen relationship, 
>> regardless of our knowledge about it, even if the Temporal Entities are 
>> still ongoing. Then what is called "corresponds to" in the scope notes, for 
>> example in P175:
>> 
>>> This property corresponds to a disjunction (logical OR) of the following 
>>> Allen temporal relations (Allen, 1983): {before, meets, overlaps, starts, 
>>> started-by, contains, finished-by, equals}
>> are equivalences as well. For the example P175:
>> 
>> P175(x,y) ⇔ AP22(x,y) ∨ AP23i(x,y) ∨ AP24(x,y) ∨ AP24i(x,y) ∨ AP25i(x,y) ∨ 
>> AP26(x,y) ∨ AP27(x,y) ∨ AP28(x,y)
>> 
>> The full list, leaving out the x and y for better readability:
>> 
>> P173 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP24i ∨ AP25 ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP26i ∨ 
>> AP27 ∨ AP27i ∨ AP28
>> P174 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP24i ∨ AP25 ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP26i ∨ 
>> AP27 ∨ AP28
>> P175 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP24i ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28
>> P176 ⇔ AP23i ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28
>> P182 ⇔ AP27 ∨ AP28
>> P183 ⇔ AP28
>> P184 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP25 ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28
>> P185 ⇔ AP24 ∨ AP25 ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28
>> 
>> However, this list and its textual counterparts feel like a dramatic reading 
>> of a database dump to me. Perhaps a single table in the introduction for all 
>> Temporal Primitives, with simple yes-or-no entries, would be a more 
>> efficient way of conveying the same information?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Wolfgang
>> 
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