The list could look like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bNmVRsSr-QX5pjCqwuji8gD-DaU5E9givpcKpNv2A2Q/edit?gid=954042918#gid=954042918
> Am 08.11.2024 um 14:24 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig > <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>: > > Dear Wolfgang, > > Thank you for checking this again! > > I think putting this in a digestible initial list is not a bad idea. Since > CRMbase does not rely on Allen, this has the character of a reference, but > als a migration instruction from older CRMbase versions. Since the Allen > relations appear now in CRMarcheo, we should make sure the way all temporal > relations are presented is in the same style in CRMarchaeo and CRMbase. > > Of course, complete equivalence was intended, and Allens as conjunction-only > from ur primitives, and our primitives as disjunction only from Allens. > > All the best, > > Martin > > On 11/8/2024 12:17 PM, Schmidle, Wolfgang via Crm-sig wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> I have checked the relationships between the Allen operators and the >> Temporal Primitives. >> >> CRMarchaeo: The stated implications are indeed equivalences. >> >> AP22(x,y) ⇔ P175(x,y) ∧ P175i(x,y) ∧ P184(x,y) ∧ P184i(x,y) >> AP23(x,y) ⇔ P176i(x,y) ∧ P184(x,y) ∧ P184i(x,y) >> AP24(x,y) ⇔ P175(x,y) ∧ P175i(x,y) ∧ P185(x,y) >> AP25(x,y) ⇔ P176i(x,y) ∧ P185(x,y) >> AP26(x,y) ⇔ P176(x,y) ∧ P174i(x,y) ∧ P185(x,y) >> AP27(x,y) ⇔ P182(x,y) ∧ P173i(x,y) >> AP28(x,y) ⇔ P183(x,y) >> >> In particular, AP28 is not (only) a subproperty of P183 but in fact >> equivalent. >> >> >> CRMbase: I have assumed that the Allen operators are exhaustive, i.e. any >> pair of Temporal Entities satisfies exactly one Allen relationship, >> regardless of our knowledge about it, even if the Temporal Entities are >> still ongoing. Then what is called "corresponds to" in the scope notes, for >> example in P175: >> >>> This property corresponds to a disjunction (logical OR) of the following >>> Allen temporal relations (Allen, 1983): {before, meets, overlaps, starts, >>> started-by, contains, finished-by, equals} >> are equivalences as well. For the example P175: >> >> P175(x,y) ⇔ AP22(x,y) ∨ AP23i(x,y) ∨ AP24(x,y) ∨ AP24i(x,y) ∨ AP25i(x,y) ∨ >> AP26(x,y) ∨ AP27(x,y) ∨ AP28(x,y) >> >> The full list, leaving out the x and y for better readability: >> >> P173 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP24i ∨ AP25 ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP26i ∨ >> AP27 ∨ AP27i ∨ AP28 >> P174 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP24i ∨ AP25 ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP26i ∨ >> AP27 ∨ AP28 >> P175 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP24i ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28 >> P176 ⇔ AP23i ∨ AP25i ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28 >> P182 ⇔ AP27 ∨ AP28 >> P183 ⇔ AP28 >> P184 ⇔ AP22 ∨ AP23 ∨ AP23i ∨ AP24 ∨ AP25 ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28 >> P185 ⇔ AP24 ∨ AP25 ∨ AP26 ∨ AP27 ∨ AP28 >> >> However, this list and its textual counterparts feel like a dramatic reading >> of a database dump to me. Perhaps a single table in the introduction for all >> Temporal Primitives, with simple yes-or-no entries, would be a more >> efficient way of conveying the same information? >> >> Best, >> Wolfgang >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr >> http://cidoc-crm.org/crm-sig-mailing-list > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Dr. Martin Doerr > Honorary Head of the > Center for Cultural Informatics > Information Systems Laboratory > Institute of Computer Science > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece > Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://cidoc-crm.org/crm-sig-mailing-list _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://cidoc-crm.org/crm-sig-mailing-list