On 06/07/2012 07:11 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 08.06.2012, at 00:48, Jon Masters wrote:
> 
>> On 06/07/2012 02:05 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Steve McIntyre
>>
>>>> Fedora
>>>> ======
>>>>
>>>> Fedora 17 has been released for primary platforms, but not for
>>>> ARM yet. Still some remaining work.
>>>>
>>>> * OMAP4 "doesn't work" (crashes), likely due to reliance on pure
>>>>  upstream OMAP support rather than TI branches. Other distros have
>>>>  used TI patches.
>>>
>>> It now works fine. It's a bug in the CONFIG_OMAP4_ERRATA_I688 that
>>> arrived in the 3.3 kernel. Disabled that and it now works fine.
>>
>> Right. It was interesting, that we turn out to be almost the only folks
>> using an upstream kernel. I talked with some TI folks about how to get
>> better upstream-only testing with configs like Fedora. Let's followup on
>> that. This might be a config issue, but hopefully we can get some others
>> to help test configs and find this kind of thing more quickly.
>>
>>>> * Might be more similar issues around other SoCs that lack support in
>>>>  upstream kernel.
>>>
>>> The SoC's we support (omap, tegra, imx, kirkwood, highbank and
>>> vexpress) all work fine with a few minor patches to fix build issues
>>> and bugs. Most of the patches are just a few lines.
>>
>> Indeed. But the point is still there. Lots of other folks are using
>> non-upstream trees as their source, which is a difference, and so we
>> wanted to convey that Fedora is taking a different (and I think
>> ultimately the right one, but I'm biased) approach.
> 
> Not sure I agree here. OpenSUSE is 100% upstream

Good to know. I don't want to make this about distro X or Y (even on
cross-disto!) but more about the notion. It's clear that there is some
difference in opinion and usage and I think the main thing I want to
convey is that this is a reality. So it's not a "blame" thing, it's just
that there's a difference in approach and more than I thought was the
case some of the sub-trees are getting more direct use out there.

Again, it all feeds back into getting stuff tested with non-defconfig.

Jon.


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