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El Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:47:04 -0600
Stephen Warren <[email protected]> escribió:
> On 10/29/2013 05:00 PM, Robie Basak wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 04:11:53PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> I don't rememeber if this came up the last time we discussed
> >> bootloader standardization, but there's a spec:
> >>
> >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/
> >>
> >> ... which sounds like it'd be interesting if all bootloaders going
> >> forward implemented, and all distros assumed. Pengutronix had a
> >> nice demo of this at their booth at ELCE.
> > 
> > Interesting, thanks!
> > 
> > I'm not sure that this is quite relevant to the current question,
> > though. The spec presupposes UEFI, which itself is an example of the
> > spec that I'm after. But, AIUI, we can't quite do this today
> > (though I appreciate that support is in the works - thank you Leif
> > and Roy).
> 
> Perhaps it's worded assuming UEFI, but I'm pretty sure it either
> doesn't actually require UEFI in practice, or that there's an
> extension to that spec being pushed that adapts it to non-UEFI
> environments. As I mentioned, Pengutronix had a demo of it running at
> ELCE, and IIRC they were using Barebox not UEFI as the bootloader.

The examples i believe are using UEFI but it is not a requirement. the
implementation is basically extlinux with some set paths. with
the sysboot command in u-boot it should be trivial to support. setting
up the environment will be the hardest bit. I am working on getting the
distro generic u-boot setting i talked about earlier this year
implemented. Fedora's wandboard u-boots are using it and it is working
well.

> The following is where I got the link to the spec from
> http://mindlinux.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/barebox-and-the-bootloader-specification-sasha-hauer-pengutronix/
> 
> > In the case of shipping an Ubuntu cloud guest image, for example, I
> > think it's safe to assume that this image won't dual-boot with
> > another distribution.
> 
> For me, the interesting part of that spec isn't the
> multi-distribution-co-existence aspect, but simply the fact that it's
> a bootloader-independant format for specifying a list of kernels/...
> to boot. While the spec supports the co-existence stuff, I guess
> there's no specific need to distros to care about this; they just
> install the appropriate config files for their own
> kernels/filesystems, and are done.

the filesystem for booting from is shared. so distros will need to make
sure not to break other distros. But the idea is a simple unified
location for booting from

Dennis

Dennis

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