If Ian is correct then SR1 already shipped a 3.9 milestone. Bizarre as that 
seams, that ship already sailed.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Konstantin Komissarchik
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:55 PM
To: 'Cross project issues'
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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] GEF Version Numbers


Frankly it’s rather scary that SR2 will run on a milestone build of GEF. How 
much testing was there on this milestone to assure fitness for SR2?

I know that I, along with others how build upon GEF, would rest easier if the 
GEF issue was also resolved in the respin. This is the last Juno service 
release. Let’s get this right, even if it takes a bit longer.

- Konstantin


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Bull
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:50 PM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] GEF Version Numbers

If GEF is (or has) released a feature with the version 3.9 and there is a new 
GEF release that contains additional API, then it should (must?) increment it's 
minor version to 3.10. If there is no new API between what's been released and 
Kepler, then I supposed that keeping 3.9 is ok, but really a increment in the 
service number should be included. (3.9.1?).

I'm not sure how this affects all future releases? It means

Juno SR0: GEF 3.8.0
Juno SR1: GEF 3.9.0
Juno SR1: GEF 3.9.0 (different qualifier)
Kepler SR0: GEF 3.10.0
Kepler SR1: GEF 3.10.1

It's a little odd, but it allows adopters to target their dependencies. 
Otherwise, if we release 3.9.0 again with Kepler, adopters will have a hard 
time specifying if they want GEF Juno or GEF Kepler.

Cheers,
Ian

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Alexander Nyßen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The GEF and M2E bugs were also discussed. The M2E bug was perceived as a bug 
that could be addressed by the project's own update repo and "hot fix" process. 
The GEF issue is more complicated, can not be fixed by their own update site, 
exactly, since part of the damage already exists in SR1. We recommend to them 
to make their Kepler version be GEF 3.10, since various Juno versions will have 
some 3.9 and some 3.8; the differences in code are relatively minor, as I 
understand it, with the version change being the worst, and some adopters will 
have to work-around that, but it is feasible to live with it.

Hmm, I am not sure whether I like that "recommendation". GEF's release policy 
has always been easily traceable for all our clients, and with respect to our 
own update sites there is indeed no problem involved: we have released 3.8.0 
and 3.8.1 on the GEF's releases update site properly and we intended do the 
same with 3.8.2 (which is the intended release for Juno SR2). Because of a 
missing upper version limit in the gef.b3aggrcon file it happened that GEF 
3.9.0 M1 was included in SR1 instead of 3.8.1 (which - as far as I remember - 
still contained the 3.8.1 bundles, only the feature versions were incremented 
at that time) and accordingly 3.9.0 M5 is now used instead of 3.8.2 in the SR2 
(which actually contains 3.9.0 bundles). Leaving 3.9.0M5 within the SR2 release 
repo is one thing (I can understand the councils decision, even if I would have 
liked it to be otherwise), but I don't like that this is going to affect all 
our future releases as well. Having said so, I would propose that with Kepler 
we will continue exactly as planned, i.e. ship our intended 3.9.0 release. All 
our bundles and features are properly equipped with qualifiers, so there should 
be no problem if the 3.9.0M5 in Juno SR2 is succeeded by the actual 3.9.0 
release in Kepler. This way, the Juno SR1 and SR2 aggregator repos would be the 
only places that reflect the above mentioned inconsistency and from Kepler on, 
everything would be fine again (and we will not have to explain, where we lost 
our 3.9.0 release). Concerning the GEF releases site, I would like to go for 
the intended 3.8.2 release there, so clients can consume it from there if they 
want to, while the 3.9.0M5 is also available from our milestones site.

Cheers
Alexander

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