> There was no indication that PTP was breaking the build. Where was the 
email to this list?

There's never automatic email to this list ... just to those that the 
aggregator determines who is to "blame" for problems. 
However, there are some problems that are so bad, the EMF model can not be 
interpreted, so the aggregator does not know whose email to send mail to.
These are easy for contributors to spot, since there is the 'validate' 
function in the b3 aggregator, which I encourage everyone to use before 
committing their contribution. 

I try to keep my eye on things, and contact people personally in those 
types of situations ... but, I see that as a convenience due to my 
friendly nature, so don't blame 
me if I didn't have time to watch your build today at 4:30 to 8:00. All 
projects are responsible for making sure the build works, notified or not. 
 

You can subscribe to Hudson's RSS feed if you'd like to be notified of the 
status of every build, though, best is not to rely on Hudson to tell you 
there is a problem, far better to use the b3 aggregators "validate" 
function (which takes seconds) and ideally the "validate aggregation" 
function, which admittedly can can 10 or 15 minutes. 

Hope these tips help improve your process. 





From:   Greg Watson <[email protected]>
To:     Cross project issues <[email protected]>, 
Date:   05/22/2013 09:53 PM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 
...     its     going to be a late night!
Sent by:        [email protected]



I was too busy trying to fix the problem so didn't open the bug. It is 
408769.

There was no indication that PTP was breaking the build. Where was the 
email to this list?

 We have been waiting for an aggregation all day so that we could test our 
package build.

Greg

On May 22, 2013, at 9:10 PM, David M Williams <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>From what I know so far, the answer is "no". 

No bug number? No justification why everyone should be delayed to fix this 
particular problem? Why it can not wait until RC2? 

Not to mention .... it was ptp that's been breaking the builds for some 
time this afternoon, already holding up everyone, and I've already spent 
an extra hour of my time fixing that and getting things just so they run 
again. So, final question, why should I have confidence in a last minute 
build submission? What extra processes have you put in place to verify and 
validate your submission? 

Sincerely, 





From:        Greg Watson <[email protected]> 
To:        Cross project issues <[email protected]>, 
Date:        05/22/2013 08:44 PM 
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 
... its        going to be a late night! 
Sent by:        [email protected] 



David, 

We have a breaking issue that was just fixed, and our build is currently 
running. I'd like to request a respin at 10pm if possible. 

Thanks, 
Greg 

On May 22, 2013, at 8:00 PM, David M Williams <[email protected]> 
wrote: 

Builds have been failing this afternoon, lots of contributions made. No 
notices sent for failures. 
I finally took a look and discovered an "empty feature" in ptp.b3aggrecon 
file: 

   <features> 
     <categories 
href="simrel.b3aggr#//@customCategories[identifier='General%20Purpose%20Tools']"/>
 

   </features> 

So, not sure if something was supposed to be there ... but, it's gone now. 


I hope that will allow the aggregator to run to completion and if not, at 
least perhaps provide an error message. 

I've discovered it gets very confused about empty features, probably 
especially when naming a category. 

If things go smooth ... we might have our RC1 staging by 10 PM. If not 
smooth ... then ... some time after that. 

Thanks, 
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