Hi Marcel, first of all: I really appreciate your work in this matter and believe this is a very important step towards being able to prioritize issues to better server our users. Thank you! I agree with your proposal that is implementing option 2 and allow by-project opt-in for option 3. I would be interested in using option 3 for EMFStore and EMF Client Platform, of course, also as a test driver.
Cheers, Maximilian Am 09.01.2015 um 08:04 schrieb [email protected]: > Send cross-project-issues-dev mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cross-project-issues-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Your friendly error reports bot is suspended (Marcel Bruch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 08:04:06 +0100 > From: Marcel Bruch <[email protected]> > To: Cross project issues <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Your friendly error reports > bot is suspended > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I see three valuable ways: > > 1. Only report issues into the separate system and let committers review > these items from time to time manually. > 2. Report issues into the separate system and send daily reports to > committers or project lists that there are new incoming problems. > 3. Report issues into the separate system AND directly into the project?s > bugzilla product/component. > > Options 1. and 2. are on my todo list for M5. Your option 3 seems viable to > me as well. > My proposal: Projects that wish to receive error reports directly in > bugzilla, should say so (e.g. by a decision on the mailing list) and specify > the bugzilla component to assign these reports with. I?ll add an UI for that. > > What do you/others think? > > Best, > Marcel > >> On 09 Jan 2015, at 05:04, Lars Vogel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Marcel, >> >> thanks for the information. >> >> From the platform.ui side I'm not sure that we will be able to adapt "yet >> another system" for looking at bug reports. IIRC the update of Bugzilla >> worked fine for us, with the only issue that the duplicate bug dedection has >> marking not the main bug and therefore created a long dependency chain. But >> I think this has been fixed. >> >> Would it be possible to configure your intermediate system per comment to >> continue to create automatic Bugzilla entries? If yes, every project could >> vote to use your new system or continue to work only in Bugzilla. >> >> Best regards, Lars >> >> 2015-01-08 8:55 GMT+01:00 Marcel Bruch <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> Hi Lars, >> >> no, there is no bug for this. But an interim system is live and receives >> errors. >> >> The UI also offers basic search capabilities now. See [1] for an overview >> and [2] for an example of a concrete query. It also offers a set of >> predefined per-project queries (see below for a comprehensive list). >> >> >> Plans are to have it operational by M5 (end of January). Until M5 the >> proposed workflow is as follows: >> >> 1. Committers can review the 'project problem listings' (given below) once >> per day >> 2. For every new problem that (you think) needs a closer look, move it to >> Bugzilla. Convenient support for this will be added tomorrow. >> >> >> Some notes about the interim system: >> 1. Even if possible, please do not make any changes in ui except creating >> bugs from there; they might get lost during system updates. >> 2. Bugzilla is the only stable reference you have. Thus, move errors to >> Eclipse? Bugzilla if you think they are bugs and start working on them there. >> 3. Once a bug was created in bugzilla, don?t look back or try to keep the >> error reporting system in-sync. Eventually we?ll do that automatically. >> 4. Problem statistics and duplicate detection results may look suspicious at >> times. It's more challenging than it may look on a first sight to detect >> duplicates in large, moving code bases. >> >> Having said this, I?m happy to receive feature requests and suggestions by >> email (probably better off this list) or, preferably, via bugzilla. >> >> Best, >> Marcel >> >> >> Unconfirmed problems by project Quickstarter Queries >> >> Acceleo >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=acceleo&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Ant >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=ant&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> C/C++ Development Tools >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=cdt&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Code Recommenders >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=rec&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Eclipse Debug >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=debug&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Eclipse Platform >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=platform&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> EGit / JGit >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=egit&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> EMF Client Platform >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=ecp&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Epsilon >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=epsilon&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Graphical Modeling Framework >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=gmf&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Graphical Modeling Tools >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=gmt&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Help >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=help&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Java Debug Interface >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=jdi&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Java Development Tools >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=jdt&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Machine 2 Machine >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=m2m&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Marketplace Client >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=mpc&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Maven 2 Eclipse >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=m2e&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Modisco >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=modisco&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Mylyn >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=mylyn&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Object Teams >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=ot&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> OCL >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=ocl&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Oomph >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=oomph&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> P2 >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=p2&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Papyrus >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=papyrus&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Plugin Development Environment >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=pde&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Webtools Project >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=wtp&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Windowbuilder >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=wb&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Xtend >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=xtend&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> Xtext >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=xtext&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED> >> >> >> >> >> >> [1] https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/ >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/> >> [2] >> https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=platform&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED&page=0&size=10&sort=createdOn,desc >> >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/recommenders/committers/confess/#/problems/search?projects=platform&kinds=NORMAL&kinds=FREEZE&categories=UNCONFIRMED&page=0&size=10&sort=createdOn,desc> >> >> >> >>> On 07 Jan 2015, at 11:30, Lars Vogel <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Marcel, >>>> I?ve been asked to shutdown the collector to keep the annoyance low until >>>> this is fixed, which I do hereby. >>> >>> Do you have the bug number for the pending fix in the error reporting bot? >>> >>> Best regards, Lars >>> >>> 2014-12-19 7:35 GMT+01:00 Marcel Bruch <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> Hi, >>> >>> in Bug 455361 Konstantin expressed his annoyance about another comment on >>> his bug. >>> I?ve been asked to shutdown the collector to keep the annoyance low until >>> this is fixed, which I do hereby. >>> >>> The collector will continue to receive errors but will not send >>> notifications to anyone or create comments in bugzilla. >>> >>> >>> Happy Christmas Season >>> Marcel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev >>> <https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >>> 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