Hi Kaloyan
Unfortunately the new policy means that we are building Oxygen M1 from
scratch. All Neon state has been disabled. Yes there are many cyclic
dependencies, often involving Xtext, that won't be able to contribute
successfully until EMF is enabled. EMF (via Xcore) now depends on Xtext.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 09/08/2016 14:55, Kaloyan Raev wrote:
I really miss the root cause of the issue...
I don't understand how does it help breaking the SimRel build now and
hoping everything will be fine by the end of tomorrow.
As far as I understand, there are a few projects that depend on each
other. Is there any cycle in the dependency graph?
We are not building the Oxygen SimRel from scratch. It is based on the
Neon state. What have changed so significantly during Oxygen M1 so
these project cannot stage their contributions incrementally?
Kaloyan
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I also fear that without enabling the Neon contributions the
bootstrapping is not to be done. We are virtually postponing it all to
Wednesday, when we will have to perform a piece-by-piece integration
(probably on the level of individual features), hoping that all
projects actually contribute something. GEF for instance depends on
e(fx)clipse and Xtext, which - if I recollect correctly - have not
even stated their intention to participate in Oxygen. I am keeping my
fingers crossed...
Regards
Alexander
Am 09.08.2016 um 14:36 schrieb Ed Willink <e...@willink.me.uk
<mailto:e...@willink.me.uk>>:
Hi
Co-ordination would be good, but we have a new policy whose
consequences do not seem to have been appreciated.
Indeed it is +2, and I see no successful +1 contributions. Just GEF
that enabled a Neon contribution to reduce its small contribution to
the overall deadlock.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 09/08/2016 13:27, Kaloyan Raev wrote:
Hi Ed,
Can't all these projects coordinate and make the necessary
contributions within a short time frame without leaving master
broken for a long time?
It's already M1 +2 date and the rest of the projects should be able
to do their contributions.
Kaloyan
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Hi
Feel free, but we have a policy problem.
The earlier discussion was on Xtext dependencies.
The build is currently failing because OCL depends on UML2 which is
missing.
Once UML2 is fixed, OCL and/or UML2 will fail because EMF and/or
Xtext is missing.
We therefore have three choices.
Green all the way: No contribution is enabled till ALL prerequisites
are enabled. This will be very slow because of the recursive
dependencies, because relengs are not super-responsive, because it
is August, because some projects never contribute at M1, and because
M1 used to be two rather than one weeks long.
Red till green: contribute as normal, so that the validator
identifies the missing contributions.
The old way. Neon contributions are enabled by default.
I think the old way was better, but given that we are improving, I
see contribution enabling as appropriate so that the missing
contributions are highlighted.
AFAIAA all OCL's dependencies have declared intent so OCL can be
enabled and that is what I have done.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 09/08/2016 13:09, Kaloyan Raev wrote:
Hi folks,
I don't want to break the party, but your recent changes, pushed
directly to master, broke the validation build. Thus, everyone else
who follow the clean process of contributing via Gerrit is blocked
at the moment.
I am going to revert the last changes one by one until I get a
clean validation build.
Please contribute your next changes via Gerrit.
Thanks,
Kaloyan
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Hi
XText has declared intent. XText releases asynchronously, so it is
very likely that Xtext 2.10 crosses the boundary.
It seems unhelpful that you have inhibited aggregation
contributions just because the XText releng has not realized how
much trouble your enabled=false is causing.
I'll enable OCL so that things improve as soon as XText and friends
appear.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 08/08/2016 18:27, David M Williams wrote:
>Can we have the Neon contributions available as in previous years?
Projects can do that, if they want -- as long as it is still "fits
in".
But it is up to the project. They need to "declare intent" and
provide a release record, AND THEN re-enable what every
contribution they want to make.
Thanks,
From: Ed Willink<e...@willink.me.uk>
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Date: 08/08/2016 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] GEF Oxygen M1 contribution
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Hi
OCL too cannot be enabled until Xtext is enabled.
I feel that this attempt to bootstrap from nothing is going to
make for some very tight late coordination.
Can we have the Neon contributions available as in previous years?
If enabled="false" is required to enforce announced participation,
surely it would be better to apply it just after M2 to all
projects that have made no SimRel commit since Neon?
Regards
Ed Willink
On 08/08/2016 16:34, Alexander Nyßen wrote:
Hi all,
I have just re-enabled the GEF repository for Oxygen and made
available the Neon release version of GEF-legacy (Draw2d/GEF (MVC)
3.x, Zest 1.x) to enable downstream projects that depend on it.
The GEF (formerly known as GEF4) contribution to M1 is already
prepared as well, but I had to disable it for now because it
depends on downstream projects (namely e(fx)clipse and Xtext) that
have not updated their contributions yet. GEF will thus not be
available today but on Wednesday.
Regards,
Alexander
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