Eike,

  There is a built in 'help' function which will display the available
commands.

Ed,

  I left cron jobs alone with the idea that people would ask for them to be
removed once they had been moved elsewhere.  Please file a bug and I'll get
the job cleaned up.

-Matt,

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:52 AM Eike Stepper <step...@esc-net.de> wrote:

> Am 27.08.2019 um 16:44 schrieb Matthew Ward:
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> >   The restricted shell was originally created with the goal of providing
> committers a way to interact with the
> > downloads/archive filesystems for releng activities, and version control
> systems without providing a general purpose
> > shell.  So naturally the command set available leans in that
> direction(mv,cp,mkdir,git etc).
> Finding out what the restricted shell actually allows you to do is quite
> annoying, as it just kicks you out on forbidden
> commands. Is there an alternative way of discovering/indicating
> forbiddenness?
>
> Cheers
> /Eike
>
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> >
> > We are certainly willing to discuss adding extra commands either
> temporarily or permanently, but I want to make it
> > clear that the goal is not to reproduce bash.
> >
> > -Matt.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com <mailto:
> ed.me...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     What will we be able to do in restricted shell?  Using vi is a very
> basic activity.  I suppose there must be some
> >     good reason why that's restricted?  Earlier I was under the
> impression that such simple things would continue to
> >     work, but now I have to wonder.  But then it was mentioned that
> things we discover needed could become unrestricted...
> >
> >
> >     On 26.08.2019 15:35, Matthew Ward wrote:
> >>     Hi David,
> >>
> >>       Thanks for the questions.
> >>
> >>     Users with the restricted shell will have the same home directories
> that they do currently, which will remain the
> >>     place for authorized keys.   You won't be able to edit(vi/emacs/ed)
> files directly within the restricted shell,
> >>     so you will need to upload them via scp/rsync.  If you want a more
> 'interactive' type of access I'd suggest
> >>     looking into using libfuse, and specifically the sshfs file system.
> >>
> >>     The restricted shell allows rsync, so there should be zero impact.
> If you'd like to test in advance, drop me a
> >>     line and I'll set you up.
> >>
> >>     -Matt.
> >>
> >>     On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:23 PM David Williams <
> david_willi...@acm.org <mailto:david_willi...@acm.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         On 8/23/19 14:24, Matthew Ward wrote:
> >>>         Hi Everyone,
> >>>
> >>>           I just wanted to follow up with a reminder that on August
> 28th we will be moving committers that have an
> >>>         actual shell on Eclipse.org to our restricted shell.
> >>>
> >>>         I'd like to thank both Donat and Etienne on the Buildship
> RelEng team who volunteered to test this change,
> >>>         and helped me confirm that this change should be minimally
> disruptive.
> >>>
> >>>         If you have any questions, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>>         -Matt.
> >>>
> >>
> >>         Thanks for the reminder.
> >>
> >>         Will those of use that still want to use 'scp' and similar
> still have a 'home directory' (on "build"?) and is
> >>         that still the place for .ssh/authorized_keys2? Or, does all
> that change with "restricted shell"?
> >>
> >>         If a change, can you point me to instructions on how to set
> that up? I would assume some form of "ssh-copy-id
> >>         hostname" but thought best not to assume and ask explicitly.
> >>
> >>         In case you are wondering, the use case, for using scp and
> similar is to download a number of builds to my
> >>         local machine (without going through web interfaces).
> >>         Now that I think of it, I currently use rsync via ssh, such as
> >>
> >>          rsync -a -e ssh ${committer_id}@build.eclipse.org:$ <mailto:
> committer_id...@build.eclipse.org:$>{dlpath}
> >>         "${output_dir}"
> >>
> >>         Will that still work with a restricted shell? Or, will I need
> to convert to "scp"?
> >>
> >>         Thanks,
> >>
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