Wayne,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the new bits being contributed are just a service release then no review is required, only the release record, correct?

On 09.02.2020 18:15, Wayne Beaton wrote:
Updating to the EPL-2.0 (and, by extension, the SUA 2.0) is not a simultaneous release participation requirement, it's a general requirement.

I haven't been as noisy as I should have been on this forum. Instead, I've been working with individual projects as they engage in the release process. I'd hoped that we'd have picked up everybody by now, but that clearly hasn't happened: either I've missed doing this for some projects, neglected to follow up, or those projects simply haven't engaged in a release review in a while. There has been plenty of noise about this, but certainly not enough on this channel. I'll change that.

I'll backpedal a bit then... if it is possible for this release to update from EPL-1.0 to EPL-2.0 (without adding risk to your release), then please do so. If not, add it as a plan item for your next release. If your project is not planning any releases and is still using EPL-1.0, please plan a service release for 2020-06 with the license upgrade.

While have your attention, I'll reinforce...

If you are adding new bits to 2020-03, you need to create a release record for that new release. If you have not engaged in a release review within a year of the release date, you need to schedule a release review. If you have engaged in a successful release review within one year of your release date, then you do not have to engage in a release review or submit your IP Log for review. If you are not sure whether or not your intellectual property is being properly tracked, go ahead and submit your IP Log and I'll have a look.

Wayne

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:12 AM Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com <mailto:ed.me...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Wayne,

    Are you suggesting that SUA 2.0 is a new participation
    requirement?  It seems to me merely a very-nice-to-have. At this
    point I would just be happy if there were no corrupted variants of
    SUA 1.0 and SUA 1.1:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553881
    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553883

    The odds that the 20 features using SUA 1.0 and the 365 features
    using SUA 1.1 will all migrate to SUA 2.0 before the 2020-03
    release, without introducing new errors, seem beyond remote to me.

    All,

    Note that not only were the two license problems above not fixed
    for M2, the signing problems were also not fixed:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=559739
    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=559740

    On the plus side, although the Eclipse Eierlegende Wollmilchsau
    remains a horrible beast:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=483982

    At least it launches successfully again:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=559317

    Of course this is only the case after waiting some minutes for the
    workspace dialog prompt, hoping my computer doesn't catch on fire
    in the process, and then waiting another minute for the IDE
    actually rear its ugly head.

    At this point, the Error Log is very well populated:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=281750&action=edit

    Most interesting is that clicking an error log entry will always
    create a new one:

      org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: No property tester
    contributes a property
    org.eclipse.tcf.te.launch.ui.model.canDelete to type class
    org.eclipse.ui.internal.views.log.LogEntry

    Regards,
    Ed

    On 07.02.2020 23:07, Wayne Beaton wrote:
    Hey folks!

    Today is the M2 date for the simultaneous release. I'll be
    assembling the  project participation information shortly.

    If you are planning to contribute new bits to the 2020-03
    simultaneous release, and have not already done so, please create
    a release record as soon as possible. It'll be much easier for
    everybody (especially me) if you can get this done before I start
    assembling the participation list (if the information is there,
    then it will be far more likely that I get it right the first
    time and we can avoid the back-and-forth of fixing things after
    the fact). There is help in the handbook
    <https://www.eclipse.org/projects/handbook/#release>.

    Please make sure that your content has the latest SUA and that,
    if your project is currently using the EPL-1.0, you update to the
    EPL-2.0. If you need help with this, please let me know (there's
    a lot of useful information for this on Bug 530393
    <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=530393>).

    You need only engage in a release review if you have not done so
    with one year of your release date. If you do need to engage in a
    release review, please engage in the workflow at your earliest
    convenience. The IP Log submission deadline is February 28/2020 (M3).

    Note that, whether or not you engage in a release review, you are
    required to implement the IP Policy at all times. Further, it is
    a simultaneous release requirement that all third party content
    be consumed through Eclipse Orbit.

    The IP Policy was updated in the fall. In practical terms for
    simultaneous release participants, this means that you no longer
    need to create piggyback CQs. There's more background in a
    Reviewing Third Party Content blog post
    
<https://waynebeaton.wordpress.com/2019/11/13/reviewing-third-party-content/>.
    More information regarding how our processes are being updated
    will be coming shortly.

    You have likely heard that the Eclipse Planning Council was
    removed from the Bylaws of the Eclipse Foundation. This does not
    mean that the Planning Council no longer exists, only that it is
    no longer governed directly by the bylaws. The Planning Council
    is still very much the primary authority with regard to oversight
    of the simultaneous release.

    Thanks,

    Wayne
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