Hi

I don't understand. Many (?all)  projects have discovered that the increased EF integrity makes it really hard to promote from the Jenkins build area to the public downloads area. Consequently my builds, when successful, trigger a separate promotion job. Nothing gets promoted till the build succeeds. Surely the platform should keep candidates in the Jenkins workspace or some private project space until such time as the analysis has confirmed that they are fit for public consumption? Users who really want an unstable build can download from the private workspace. Promoting then analysing then marking as unstable seems like a recipe for confused users.

"often they'll see a good build" !!! Surely must be always? You haven't explained how Tycho magically took the oldest of three (all stable) and so happened to allow the OCL build to succeed.

You haven't explained how a not-unstable build has over 7000 fails.

You haven't explained why any not-unstable builds has any fails at all.

    Regards

        Ed Willink

On 16/04/2021 08:41, Sravan K Lakkimsetti wrote:

Hi Ed,

Here is the process we follow,

There are two steps in promotion.

 1. Promote build to downloads pages. To serve users who want to download.
 2. Add to I-builds composite repository

When we find problems with build we mark a build as unstable. This removes offending build from I-builds composite repository. This enables end users to use a good build for upgrade process. These broken builds stay for a week on the download page and after they are automatically removed. This process is there for developers to analyse problems.

Due to this process whenever downstream projects point to I-builds composite most often they’ll see a good build. We also mark a build unstable if we find any problems during the build process itself.

Because of above mentioned process Tycho will not pull a bad build in maximum cases.

Hope this explanation helps

Thanks

Sravan

*From:*Ed Willink <ed.will...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* 16 April 2021 12:36
*To:* cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SWT win32 Broken in Latest 4.20 IBuild?

Hi

There is something much stranger gong on.

I ran an early OCL build that would have run on Sunday. It has SWT usage but the build runs fine, because it used

https://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.20-I-builds/I20210413-1400  
<https://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.20-I-builds/I20210413-1400/plugins/>

although that is the earliest of the 3 listed in the compositeArtifacts.jar. If it had used the more recent then the problem might have shown up.

?? Why did Tycho fail to pull in the broken build ??

http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/I20210413-1400/ <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/I20210413-1400/> has 63 test fails which is rather disturbing.

http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/I20210415-0010/ <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/I20210415-0010/>, which is not marked as unstable, has 7057 fails.

Surely such a high number of fails should be a private matter to be resolved by the platform committers with no more trouble to the community as a whole than perhaps a polite message to cross-project-dev announcing the lack of build promotions while a problem is investigated.

Why does http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/> show unstable builds? Surely these too should not have been promoted to waste disc space / confuse the community?

Why do any builds have any fails at all? Surely a test that fails is a test that fails? In my code, if a test is proving problematic then I raise a Bugzilla and comment out the test until a solution is found.

    Regards

        Ed Willink

On 16/04/2021 07:45, Niraj Modi wrote:

    Hi All,

    We learned that Windows Signing service is down/broken:
    http://build.eclipse.org:31338/winsign.php
    <http://build.eclipse.org:31338/winsign.php>

    Raised a blocker below bug with Eclipse foundation:

    *Bug 572896*
    <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=572896> - Windows
    Signing service is down or link broken

    Regards,

    Niraj Modi

        ----- Original message -----
        From: Sravan K Lakkimsetti/India/IBM
        To: "Cross project issues"
        <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
        <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, Niraj
        Modi/India/IBM@IBM
        Cc:
        Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [cross-project-issues-dev] SWT win32
        Broken in Latest 4.20 IBuild?
        Date: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 11:46 AM

        Found the faulty commit
        
https://git.eclipse.org/c/platform/eclipse.platform.swt.binaries.git/commit/?id=a26b79c959e884b3a3a96ce2e2cbf0b6ef9e6d23
        
<https://git.eclipse.org/c/platform/eclipse.platform.swt.binaries.git/commit/?id=a26b79c959e884b3a3a96ce2e2cbf0b6ef9e6d23>

        Need to investigate why this happened.

        @Niraj Modi
        Can you please help?

        Thanks
        Sravan

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com> <mailto:ed.me...@gmail.com>
        Sent: 16 April 2021 11:18
        To: Cross project issues
        <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
        <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
        Subject: [EXTERNAL] [cross-project-issues-dev] SWT win32
        Broken in Latest 4.20 IBuild?

        Hi,

        I updated my target platform from
        http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.20-I-builds
        <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.20-I-builds>
        and after that I could not run any SWT applications anymore:

        java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Could not load SWT library.
        Reasons:

        
D:\Users\merks\oomph-1.21\ws\.metadata\.plugins\org.eclipse.pde.core\IDE\org.eclipse.osgi\480\0\.cp\swt-win32-4944r16.dll:
        %1 is not a valid Win32 application
             no swt-win32 in java.library.path: [C:\Program
        Files\Java\jdk-11.0.9\bin,....]
         D:\Users\merks\.swt\lib\win32\x86_64\swt-win32-4944r16.dll:
        %1 is not a valid Win32 application
             Can't load library:
        D:\Users\merks\.swt\lib\win32\x86_64\swt-win32.dll
         D:\Users\merks\.swt\lib\win32\x86_64\swt-win32-4944r16.dll:
        %1 is not a valid Win32 application

        Using
        http://download.eclipse.org/releases/2021-06/202104161000
        <http://download.eclipse.org/releases/2021-06/202104161000>
        instead works fine, so it seems to be something that's
        happened between M1 and today.

        Has anyone else noticed this?  For those who "eat our own dog
        food", such a problem could cripple your IDE if you update the
        IDE itself...

        Regards,
        Ed


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