Thanks Ed for the response.

Regarding search across organizations, you can use github advanced query 
feature https://github.com/search/advanced
I added 
https://github.com/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+archived%3Afalse+org%3Aeclipse-platform+org%3Aeclipse-jdt+org%3Aeclipse-pde+org%3Aeclipse-equinox+%s<https://github.com/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+archived%3Afalse+org%3Aeclipse-platform+org%3Aeclipse-jdt+org%3Aeclipse-pde+org%3Aeclipse-equinox+%25s>
 as search engine in google chrome to search across organizations. I would say 
it is possible and with one time configuration of browser, search should become 
simpler.

Hope this helps

-Sravan
<https://github.com/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+archived%3Afalse+org%3Aeclipse-platform+org%3Aeclipse-jdt+org%3Aeclipse-pde+org%3Aeclipse-equinox+results>


From: cross-project-issues-dev <cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> 
On Behalf Of Ed Merks
Sent: 18 April 2022 17:26
To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Sorry, entering a bug into 
the product JDT has been disabled.,


Ed,

The fate of Bugzilla, Gerrit, git.eclipse.org.and wiki.eclipse.org was 
announced to all committers:

  https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse.org-committers/msg01340.html

The announcement included a plan:

  
https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/wikis/Gerrit/Gerrit-and-Bugzilla-deprecation-and-migration-plan

It also included a place for providing feedback:

  https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/678

The platform has diligently migrated everything to Github, so that's a done 
deal and will not be undone.

Certainly there are issues with issues, e.g., you can't really move them 
between organizations, when an organization has many repos, it's not so clear 
where to open and issue, and how to search for issues across repos and 
organizations isn't clear.

Note that the Eclipse TLP has 4 organizations.

https://github.com/eclipse-equinox/<https://github.com/eclipse-equinox/>
https://github.com/eclipse-jdt/<https://github.com/eclipse-jdt/>
https://github.com/eclipse-pde/<https://github.com/eclipse-pde/>
https://github.com/eclipse-platform/<https://github.com/eclipse-platform/>

There are also advantages to issue, e.g., the user interface is much richer, 
allowing to create nice documentation with images and examples.

In any case, the place to  have a discussions, and to suggest concrete 
proposals to mitigate the downsides, is here rather than the mailing list:

  https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/678

Regards,
Ed
On 18.04.2022 13:19, Ed Willink wrote:

Hi

Surely the fix is to abort this mad vandalism and so avoid the need to chase 
endless ripples?

While changing the spelling of git.eclipse.org and wiki.eclipse.org might be 
necessary and a manageable pain mitigated by redirects, terminating Bugzilla is 
madness.

Bugzilla has been providing an invaluable to service to the platform and JDT 
for over 20 years and as such is THE record of many design decisions. The 
integrity of this record should not lightly be discarded, particularly given 
that Bugzilla is not EOL. Ok it is not seeing much progress towards version 6, 
but to me that just demonstrates that it is adequate. Proposed replacements are 
far from adequate.

Eclipse is an aggregate of many projects and so we have long encouraged users 
to report their bug making a best guess at the correct product, sure in the 
knowledge that it can be re-componented.

For instance https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_activity.cgi?id=578944 was 
recently plausibly raised as an EMF bug, but then equally plausibly triaged as 
an OCL bug. Upon investigation this was bounced back again to EMF with the 
option to bounce further to platform. Bugzilla supports this very cleanly.

For instance again, last week I was forced to raise 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=579718 against PDE since JDT has 
gone. hoping that some PDE recipient would know what the new technology for 
re-componenting was. Instead a comment suggests that this is likely a side 
effect of the 16 year old https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=99622 
that is still being worked on.

Examination of Bug 99622 shows that although JDT bugs have been moved to 
archive the active bugs have not yet been migrated and that no moved 
notifications have been sent.

It seems essential that ALL bugzillas from ALL 'platform' projects should be 
kept in the SAME search space; Bugzilla provides this. Replacements do not. 
This would seem to apply until some major disruption such as "e5" may justify 
the new team starting a new bug train for the new activity. Until then please 
keep e3 and e4 together.

For Modeling projects this is even more of an imperative. Sadly Eclipse and 
World Modeling is dying so the amount of new work in the next 20 years is 
likely to be much less than that in the last twenty. It is therefore crazy to 
split the dying embers off from their predecessors. If/when some magic new team 
of well funded enthusiasts comes along to pioneer EMF 3, then let them too 
choose the appropriate bug platform for the new initiative. For now please do 
not spend so much effort vandalizing out past achievements and burning our 
precious development resources.

Is there any long term Eclipse committer who actually wants this Bugzilla 
vandalism?

    Regards

        Ed Willink
On 18/04/2022 00:51, Denis Roy wrote:

We'll address the issue via the HelpDesk issue below.

Agree though, we need some redirects or links at the very least.

Denis


On 2022-04-17 12:21, Stephan Herrmann wrote:
On 17.04.22 12:46, Ed Merks wrote:

The message could be improved by redirecting here:

https://github.com/eclipse-jdt#reporting-issues<https://github.com/eclipse-jdt#reporting-issues>

It sounds like the PMI needs attention too...

see https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/1186

Anybody with a bookmark on bugs.eclipse.org or even 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi will simply learn that JDT is no 
longer accepting bug reports. End of story. I thought open source development 
is all about communication. Never too old to learn better. I'm glad I no longer 
feel responsible for any of this, otherwise I'd have trouble avoiding any bad 
words ...

Stephan




On 17.04.2022 12:43, Ed Willink wrote:

Hi

The PMI form for JDT at

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=JDT

is no longer able to report a bug. It reports "Sorry, entering a bug into the 
product JDT has been disabled.,,Please press Back and try again."

Does this mean that JDT is now perfect and will never have any bugs ever again?

    Regards

        Ed Willink

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