Hello,

While we should make efforts to minimize duplications, and thanks to Ed to
encourage that, it's also great to acknowledge that this is not a primary
goal of SimRel and that we should praise the people who decided to make
Eclipse Platform rely on OSGi so such duplications of non-singleton
libraries is actually not a problem!
So let's just take a few seconds and think about how OSGi helps us
continuously. (I've read negative comments about OSGi lately, and find
those very unfair so I'm trying to make people realize what kinds of
difficult problems it does resolve, and how easy can be the solutions it
provides).

Back to this specific case...

> It looks like lsp4e uses quite tight version ranges for lsp4j. For
example the latest released version org.eclipse.lsp4e 0.15 requires-bundle
org.eclipse.lsp4j;bundle-version="[0.19.0,0.20.0)".
Since lsp4j 0.20 is directly contributed to SimRel and lsp4e requires lsp4j
0.19 both versions apear in the SimRel-repo.

Indeed, LSP4E uses tight ranges for LSP4J because LSP4J API is changing in
non-backward compatible-ways (this is necessary to support changes in
Language Server Protocol).
And indeed, latest release of LSP4E (0.21) does use LSP4J 0.19 (not latest).

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 12:57 AM Hannes Wellmann <hanneswellm...@gmx.de>
wrote:

> lsp4e was already updated to lsp4j 0.20 by Mickael five days ago:
>
> https://github.com/eclipse/lsp4e/commit/ad0c6a19481f5c729b45a3784fec94201d217085
>  So as soon as the next lsp4e release (I assume 0.22) is contributed to
> SimRel only one version of lsp4j should remain.
> @Mickael can you tell/estimate when this will be?
>

LSP4E has received many big changes in the last weeks, including some
strong API changes, for a much better result on many aspect. However, those
refactorings are still ongoing and the current state is a mix of old and
new without clear deprecation, it's improper tor release at the moment. so
LSP4E won't be ready for release in 2022-03. So LSP4J 0.19 will have to
stay.
I believe there are still 2 or 3 weeks of work at the current pace before
we can release the new and better LSP4E.

The two different 2.10.1 versions of gson are probably due to the fact that
> lsp4j uses gson 2.10.1 from Maven-Central, while somebody else uses gson
> 2.10.1 from Orbit:
> https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/I20230215045902/
>  But what I don't understand is, why does Orbit even contain a recent
> version of gson? In m2e we use gson 2.10.1 from central and it looks like
> it already has proper OSGi metadata.
> Therefore I don't really understand why the version from Orbit is even
> used and provided?
>

I agree that Orbit duplicating a bundle that exists in a usable state
upstream can be the root of many other issues. As we have an example here
that this has a cost to troubleshot, and that there was probably a cost in
setting up the Orbit clone; I'm also curious about what is the expected
added-value that makes this cost profitable enough to be perceived as an
reasonable investment?
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