Obsurity is just one layer of security. It is used by
IRC servers rather sucessfully for their hub server. 
http://cavetroll.uwcs.co.uk/
http://cavetroll.uwcs.co.uk/metaserver/

--- Mark Wedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mitch Obrian wrote:
> > Cave's php metaservers are great. The sms's are
> sent
> > the data by the servers. They then send the info
> to
> > the cms which sends the info to the other sms's.
> This
> > way (since the sms's are trusted) the cms is
> unDoSable
> > as it's ip is unknown except for the trusted sms.
> > Since cave's metaservers are written in php they
> can
> > be hosted anywhere... including hosting companies
> with
> > near unlimited bandwidth.
> 
>   seems to me that making the CMS ip secret is just
> security through obscurity. 
>   Once someone discovers that IP through whatever
> method, you lose that benefit 
> - this means the CMS has to be secure on its own.
> 
> > 
> > We should implement it, it has been written. It is
> > good. The time for discussing how it should be
> done is
> > passed as we allready have a product now.
> 
>   You discussed the metaserver/program before,
> however, when asked to provide 
> link/URL, did not provide one.  Trying to search for
> info on it is pretty 
> meaningless, as cave is just too common a word.
> 
> 
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