Hi, are there any objections in going ahead with this? Misha, what is the targeted Crosswalk release?
Francesco > -----Original Message----- > From: Crosswalk-dev [mailto:crosswalk-dev-bounces@lists.crosswalk- > project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Marcos P. Santos > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 4:37 PM > To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail; Tomasz Iwanek; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk- > project.org > Subject: Re: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user experience on > desktop > > I second this. My Crosswalk Ubuntu packages are a good example of seamless > integration on the Linux desktop. > > I personally never use other runtime specific package managers like CPAN or > PIP > because: > > - Is hard to keep track of what is installed on my system. > - Updates with security and bug fixes are not done properly. > - Conflicts with versions of the same package installed by the distro package > manager. > > I would love if Crosswalk could simple embrace whatever the desktop system it > wants to support provides. > > https://launchpad.net/~tmpsantos/+archive/ubuntu/crosswalk > > On 04-09-2014 13:32, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail wrote: > > I do not see any benefit in having more than one package manager on the > system. > > > > There will be no installation on desktop, as for the permanent data it > > should be stored somewhere in crosswalk config, > (~/.config/xwalk/the_app_specific_path). > > > > BR, > > Mikhail > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Tomasz Iwanek [t.iwa...@samsung.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:57 AM > > To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org > > Subject: RE: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user > > experience on desktop > > > > Nevertheless, some application/technologies have their own packaging > > conventions independently from systems platform packager (e.g. for > > python, it is usually better to follow installation by > > pip/easy_install than trying to create rpm/dpkg from python egg). > > > > About implementation. > > As I understand, there will be still installation of application / > > launching part of code for desktop (directories: > > xwalk/applications/common/{.,installer}). > > But it will be used for temporary installation and will be referenced > > inside xwalk, right? Or do you want to separate installation for > > desktop/tizen? > > What features installation for desktop should not support? > > > > If applications is never installed (beside temporary installation) for > > desktop, will it be able to use w3c file API or any API that stores > > results between several application launches? > > > > Regards, > > Tomasz Iwanek > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail [mailto:mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:27 AM > > To: Tomasz Iwanek; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org > > Subject: RE: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user > > experience on desktop > > > > Hello Tomasz, > > > > thanks for your questions and proposals. > > > > 1. So far we can distinguish by the given file extension, but it might > > make sense to add such options in future. > > 2. I think home-brewed application management is useless because the > > platform application management (and packaging) should be used. > > > > what I generally want is > > 1) just to simplify Crosswalk UX on desktop so that the User can > > easily launch an .xpk (.wgt) files there, no platform specific > > configuration added so far (pls note that we do not support officially > > any of desktop platforms) > > 2) to encapsulate tizen-specific business logic > > > > BR, > > Mikhail > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Tomasz Iwanek [t.iwa...@samsung.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:29 AM > > To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org > > Subject: RE: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user > > experience on desktop > > > > Hello, > > > > 1. What do you think about options "--xpk ${xpk}" and "--conf ${json}" > > (like option "--jar" in java for packaged applications)? > > > > 2. Is application management that useless for desktop build? Id is id. > > Maybe desktop installation should integrate somehow with desktop > > environment on host, like > > - creating wrapper script for applications which run xwalk-launcher > > with right id (for user: it is some executable, just run it), > > - create configuration files for application to be run from icon on > > desktop. > > > > Just ideas. > > Regards, > > Tomasz Iwanek > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Crosswalk-dev > > [mailto:crosswalk-dev-boun...@lists.crosswalk-project.org] On Behalf > > Of Pozdnyakov, Mikhail > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:30 AM > > To: crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org > > Subject: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user experience > > on desktop > > > > Hi there, > > > > At the moment the Crosswalk desktop user should do the following steps > > to run an xwalk application (.xpk or .wgt) > > 1) "install" it using xwalkctl (means recording it application > > storage) > > 2) obtain the generated app_id > > 3) finally run the app via id > > > > Apparently this logic was designed for Tizen where Crosswalk is used > > as the platform web-runtime. > > This scenario however looks really weird on desktop as it contains > > home-brewed application management (which is apart from the platform > > application management on desktop) and forces the User to be aware of > > some generated app id. > > > > I propose us to drop this scenario on desktop and support the > > following scenarios there: > > > > 1) Run arbitrary URL (this is already done) -> xwalk > > http://someurl.com > > 2) Run the unpacked application -> xwalk local/path/to/manifest.json > > At the moment Crosswalk can run the unpacked app from the path to *the > > directory containing manifest.json* I propose to use instead path to > > the manifest file. > > 3) Run packed application -> xwalk path/to/my_app.xpk This is not > > supported now. Crosswalk could unpack the app to a temporary directory > > and erase it after the execution. > > > > Doing this also allows us to move all the application storage & > > application management code to 'tizen' folder and remove the > > unnecessary abstraction code. > > This should significantly simplify our code in 'application' folder. > > > > BR, > > Mikhail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Intel Finland Oy > > Registered Address: PL 281, 00181 Helsinki Business Identity Code: > > 0357606 - > > 4 Domiciled in Helsinki > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution > > by others is strictly prohibited. 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