When I say monsoon rain, that means 1-3" standing water usually over several 
hundred yards of roadway.  It's the worst test you can throw at wet traction 
and it's unreal when you hit it, but again, George's home-brew anti-lock 
braking works like a champ.



-George


> Well, I've got 16X7's on Kumho Ecsta 711's, car is lowered on Neuspeed
> springs, and Koni's...I live in Colorado, and have NO problem.  I can
> RIP down the interstate steady as a rock in the rain, and it does great
> in the packed snow too.  Ice/slick streets?  Not as good as you can
> imagine.  Drive for the weather...
> 
> So I really dont know what to say.  
> 
> Willy
> 
> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > From my own experience during monsoon rain storms here in Florida,
> > the stock 
> > 13" steelies did an "okay" job keeping the car planted on the road. 
> > After I 
> > lowered the suspension on Eibach Pro Kit springs and put the 205/50
> > R-15 
> > Koenig rims on, the car had a horrible time driving through any
> > slicks of 
> > water at high speed- felt like a crazy crabwalk.
> > 
> > Willy- you're right on the money 'cause it turned out to be the
> > alignment.  
> > Once I had a 4-wheel alignment done, the car now tracks straighter
> > than ever, 
> > *but* if I fly through standing water at speeds above 55mph (not that
> > I ever 
> > go faster than 55mph :P) the car loses traction like it's floating on
> > the 
> > wider tires and starts going diagonally towards the lower shoulder.
> > 
> > Here's the interesting point- all I have to do to recover is a series
> > of quick 
> > tap-tap-tap's on the brake pedal and the car corrects back to a
> > straight path 
> > almost instantly.  This is George's home-brew anti-lock brakes :).
> > 
> > 
> > George
> > '89 DX-Hybrid-D16Z6, 128k miles
> > "Sweeeeeeet to drive"
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Actually, the tire/wheel "size" does matter a little.  The WIDER
> > the tire's 
> > foot print,
> > the more it dissapates the weight, just Kuhn said.  So you wouldn't
> > really 
> > need a taller
> > wheel/tire, but maybe a more narrow one, so that less weight is
> > distributed, 
> > and the tire
> > 'cuts' through the water faster.  This is much more apparent in mud
> > and snow 
> > conditions,
> > but does pertain to wet conditions as well.  So take that into
> > consideration, 
> > and then
> > that tread information is also vital as well...
> > > I had a 93 MR2, that was TERRIBLE on ANY kind of adverse
> > conditions.  I 
> > finally realized
> > that it was HORRIBLY out of alignment..You could get that checked. 
> > Once 
> > adjusted, it was
> > a champ!  
> > > The stock size should be just fine.  Your tires are probably very
> > worn, or 
> > just have poor
> > weather handling condition.  You can check out ratings for different
> > tires at
> > http://www.tirerack.com.  When you go through the whole picking tires
> > routine, 
> > and you are
> > looking at the list of PICTURED tires, the name just to the right of
> > the tires 
> > picture
> > should be a link that you can click on, to view the individual area's
> > rating:
> > > Dry traction, WET TRACTION, hydro resistance, snow traction,
> > cornering 
> > ability, steering
> > response, ride comfort, noise comfort, and tread wear.  It's very
> > easy to read 
> > and
> > understand.  
> > > That way you can find the tire that best suits your needs, not just
> > what the 
> > shop has that
> > they are trying to push, and tell you they are the BEST out there.
> > >  
> > > Willy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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