Sounds good to me but would it not make more sense to remove 2.6 from our Travis config and instead retain the CentOS / 2.6 builder in Jenkins given that it's the only real place where 2.6 is being used?
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:11 PM Paul Kehrer <paul.l.keh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some numbers to inform this conversation. Here are the download counts for > cryptography 1.1.2 right now (12 days of downloads): > > cryptography-1.1.2.tar.gz 2015-12-10 > 261,761 > cryptography-1.1.2-pp27-none-macosx_10_10_x86_64.whl 2015-12-10 > 86 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp35-none-win_amd64.whl 2015-12-10 > 292 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp35-none-win32.whl 2015-12-10 > 325 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp35-cp35m-macosx_10_6_intel.whl 2015-12-10 > 481 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp35-cp35m-macosx_10_10_x86_64.whl 2015-12-10 > 50 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp34-none-win_amd64.whl 2015-12-10 > 289 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp34-none-win32.whl 2015-12-10 > 347 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp34-cp34m-macosx_10_6_intel.whl 2015-12-10 > 254 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp34-cp34m-macosx_10_10_x86_64.whl 2015-12-10 > 63 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp33-none-win_amd64.whl 2015-12-10 > 108 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp33-none-win32.whl 2015-12-10 > 97 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp33-cp33m-macosx_10_6_intel.whl 2015-12-10 > 60 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp33-cp33m-macosx_10_10_x86_64.whl 2015-12-10 > 49 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp27-none-win_amd64.whl 2015-12-10 > 3,941 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp27-none-win32.whl 2015-12-10 > 2,544 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp27-none-macosx_10_6_intel.whl 2015-12-10 > 5,834 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp27-none-macosx_10_10_intel.whl 2015-12-10 > 188 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp26-none-win_amd64.whl 2015-12-10 > 86 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp26-none-win32.whl 2015-12-10 > 63 > cryptography-1.1.2-cp26-none-macosx_10_10_intel.whl 2015-12-10 > 93 > > PyPI mirrors account for ~50-60 downloads, so you can see that the 2.6 > wheel downloads are essentially insignificant. Of course, Python 2.6 users > are disproportionately likely to be using a pip that predates wheel support > or a tool like easy_install and without significant work parsing the PyPI > logs we can't easily see the breakdown from the sdist (which obviously > constitutes the vast, vast majority of all downloads). > > In the absence of solid numbers on our actual download counts I'd propose > fully dropping 2.6 support in a more graduated fashion. At the termination > of support (2 releases by this proposal, which would be between March-May > of 2016 at our current release rates) we would do the following: > > * Remove the 2.6 trove classifier > * Changelog entry announcing that we no longer support 2.6 going forward. > * Remove 2.6 from our jenkins config > * Remove all but one 2.6 builder from our Travis config > > Retaining one builder would not be unduly burdensome from a maintenance > perspective, but it would allow us to realize almost all of the benefits of > removing 2.6 including faster CI and less wheels to upload. > > This approach would allow us to remove support quickly, but retain > compatibility at least until such time as we decide we want a 2.7+ specific > feature (which could terminate the last of 2.6 support at any time). It is > possible that a bug would creep in due to not having full support in our > test matrix, but we aren't claiming 2.6 compatibility and bugs of that type > have been exceedingly rare thus far in the project. > > -Paul > > On December 22, 2015 at 9:44:12 PM, Alex Gaynor (alex.gay...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd like to propose we formally deprecate (in our next release) and remove > (in the release thereafter) support for Python2.6. > > It is no longer under support from its developers (which makes it a > security risk), its use is more or less confined to users of CentOS and > RHEL (which means SCL is available to them, and they have a corporate > benefactor to complain to if it doesn't work), and its seriously funking > with our development workflow because it's so abysmally slow in CI (which > means it's annoying me enough to want to solve this). > > There is genuinely no justifiable reason to use Python 2.6 anymore, both > Django and Twisted have dropped it. > > If this would _seriously_ impact you, please reply to this thread. If > possible I'd also like to hear from our downstreams. > > Cheers, > Alex > > -- > "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right > to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) > "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero > GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084 > _______________________________________________ > Cryptography-dev mailing list > Cryptography-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/cryptography-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Cryptography-dev mailing list > Cryptography-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/cryptography-dev >
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