Cryptography-Digest Digest #650, Volume #10 Tue, 30 Nov 99 07:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: compact encryption in javascript (Paul Rubin)
Re: Question About SHA-1 (Tom St Denis)
Re: Peekboo Ideas? (Tom St Denis)
Re: How safe is Mobile Phone ? ("M. Okra")
Re: Random Noise Encryption Buffs (Look Here) ("Douglas A. Gwyn")
Re: Random Noise Encryption Buffs (Look Here) ("Douglas A. Gwyn")
Re: NSA should do a cryptoanalysis of AES ("Douglas A. Gwyn")
Re: ENCRYPTOR 4.0 by Comotex USA Inc. CRACKED !! (JPeschel)
VIC cipher strength? ("r.e.s.")
postdoc position in cryptology (Lars Ramkilde Knudsen)
Re: A dangerous question (Guy Macon)
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Re: FEAL-8 algorithm (Volker Hetzer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: compact encryption in javascript
Date: 30 Nov 1999 03:09:53 GMT
In article <81tut5$2dmg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eike Kock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I am looking for a compact public-key-based encryption algorithm I can
>easily implement using javascript in less than 10 lines of code. Anyone know
>of something like this.
>
>Thank you in advance,
>Eike
This really can't be done unless you use Java. You could do public
key in javascript, but it would take a lot of clumsy code (much
more than 10 lines), and would be very slow.
Implementing secret-key ciphers like RC4 in javascript is very easy.
Is that good enough for your application?
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From: Tom St Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question About SHA-1
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:55:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
dpwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am considering the use (abuse, perhaps) of SHA-1 to generate unique
> identifiers for java objects based upon their serialized state data. I
> need to be able to quickly and easily discern one serialized object
from
> another based upon it's contents. There will be enough instance data
to
> allow adequate discrimination to occur. Since the SHA-1 digest
mechanism
> is part of the Java 1.2 distribution, it seems a likely possibility.
>
> My question is about the possibilities of "collision" (the chance
that 2
> different inputs could produce the same SHA-1 result). In the write-
ups
> I have seen on SHA-1 there is mention of a low probability of such
> collision but nowhere do I see a definition of "low". Obviously, with
> the universe of possible, variable length inputs and a 160 bit result,
> there must be some possibility of collision. We can accept this but
> really would like some more accurate statement of what we can expect.
>
> If anyone can assist in this definition, please email me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
Nah I will respond here... hehehe
If any n bit function is collision resistant then by the birthday
paradox two random values [lets call x and y] should collide [i.e f(x)
= f(y)] with a rate of 2^-(n/2). After 2^(n/2) random inputs you
should find a collision with any previous with a rate of 1/2.
Tom
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From: Tom St Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Peekboo Ideas?
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:01:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> one of the aim of a signature is to be sure that the message hasn't
> been altered. if you strip white space, any whitespace can be added
> or removed without being detected by the signature.
>
> i dont think it is a good solution but if you choose that, you have
> to be absolutly sure that the user is aware of this hole in the
> signature process.
Hmm that's bad.
I could include the message+hash in a BASE64 encoded blob. It wouldn't
be human readable, but if you think about it, you don't want to read a
message until you verify the signature anyways... :)
Tom
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:35:07 -0500
From: "M. Okra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How safe is Mobile Phone ?
In this connection, see the Sy Hersh article in the 12/6/99 New Yorker.
David Wagner wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Douglas A. Gwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Lincoln Yeoh wrote:
> > > Most analog cellular phones have no encryption. Trivial to eavesdrop
> > > with a scanner. Easy to clone too.
> >
> > In fact, several of us commented on this during the (US) FCC
> > proceedings leading to the establishment of the US cell-phone
> > system. But it wasn't "three-letter agencies" that ignored
> > the problem, it was manufacturers greedy for quick bucks who
> > didn't want to delay while a proper engineering job was done.
>
> That doesn't seem to be the case when it comes to digital cellphones,
> though.
>
> All reports I've seen indicate that the standards committee made at
> least some serious effort to use strong cryptography, but that they
> were rebuffed by the NSA (or pick your favorite party fronting for the
> export regulations -- State Dept., etc.) due to export regulations.
> Consequently, the US cellular industry has standardized on extremely
> weak crypto (when the crypto is even used at all).
>
> Note also that there is often a NSA representative sitting in on the
> AHAG working group meetings. (The AHAG is the US cellular telephony
> standards committee that deals with all matters pertaining to crypto.)
>
> I think one can make a good case that the export regulations and/or the
> NSA (the two causes are hard to separate) must shoulder a good deal
> of the blame for the insecurity of today's cellphone infrastructure.
> It's a shame.
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From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Random Noise Encryption Buffs (Look Here)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:52:58 GMT
Tom St Denis wrote:
> "Douglas A. Gwyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ... two identically prepared quantum systems, constrained as
> > tightly as nature allows, need not evolve along the same path.
> That's like saying each time you went back in time [the exact same
> time] you would observe a different state.
It was not at all like saying that!
> Which means a atom can never be in one state at any time.
> Kinda like an omni-state..
Instead of making up meaningless gobbledegook, you would invest
your time better in learning about the subject (quantum physics).
There are several books for the layman in bookstores and libraries.
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From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Random Noise Encryption Buffs (Look Here)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:03:43 GMT
Tim Tyler wrote:
> As far as I'm aware, the search for some direct physical source of
> completly secure random numbers is a fundamentally hopeless one -
> due to these sorts of effect.
Assuming you mean random bit generation, it is not hopeless.
Detection of events such as radioactive decay don't distort
the underlying randomness to any significant extent, and to
the small extent that there are instrumentation effects, we
know how to compensate for them.
But one doesn't have to turn to "quantum" events for real
randomness -- thermal noise, on a macroscopic scale, is so
random that we simply do not have the ability to detect
otherwise. Thermodynamics involves in effect a cascade of
interactions that affect subsequent interactions, etc. so
that any artificially imposed order is rapidly lost in the
noise. (Specially devised situations that do not have
that property are interesting precisely because they are so
unusual.)
One common physical source of noise used in random bitstream
generators is "shot noise" (electrical fluctuations of a
reverse-biased semiconductor junction); that's inherently a
manifestation of quantum randomness.
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From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NSA should do a cryptoanalysis of AES
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:08:16 GMT
Bruce Schneier wrote:
> >Not likely, since FOIA has an exemption for imformation classified
> >in the interest of national security.
> According to the various FOIA experts I've spoken with, there is some
> precedent for denying that exemption because AES is a civilian
> standard, and not a military one.
That has nothing to do with the FIOA exemption.
It isn't the use to which you wish to put the protected
information that matters, it's the necessity to continue
to protect the information for the sake of national
security (which gets determined by NSA in this example).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JPeschel)
Subject: Re: ENCRYPTOR 4.0 by Comotex USA Inc. CRACKED !!
Date: 30 Nov 1999 07:38:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Chase) writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>JPeschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>>Yes, but because it's time consuming, i prefer only prove that the
>>>softs are insecure. Why create a crack soft for encryptor 4.0 if
>>>encryptor 4.0 is dead ?
>
>>Because Rocky and Bullwinkle want to be able to read all
>>of the Encryptor 4.0 files on Natasha's hard-drive even
>>if she used different keys for each file. They don't have
>>much time since she'll be back soon from lunch with Boris.
>
>So what you're asserting here is that if you're using this encryption
>product, your data is acceptably secure as long as you don't take long
>lunches, and that you don't take up company with imaginary squirrels and
>moose?
>
Uh, nope, but I smiled when I read your reply. :-)
Joe
__________________________________________
Joe Peschel
D.O.E. SysWorks
http://members.aol.com/jpeschel/index.htm
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From: "r.e.s." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIC cipher strength?
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:51:59 -0800
While browsing in a bookstore recently, I noticed
that in three different books the so-called "VIC"
cipher (the pen-and-paper cipher used by Soviet
agent Hayhaynen) was referred to as "very secure",
"strong", and "virtually unbreakable" by today's
standards. John Savard's webpage also says it
"seems highly secure".
How can that be?
The key-components appear to be only a 20-letter
keyphrase, a 6-digit keynumber, and a 5-digit
message key. Doesn't this effectively correspond
to a key well under 80-bits wide?
--
r.e.s.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Lars Ramkilde Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: sci.research.postdoc
Subject: postdoc position in cryptology
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:47:42 +0100
Postdoc position
EU-project: NESSIE
(New European Schemes for Signature, Integrity and Encryption).
(See http://www.ii.uib.no/~larsr/nessie for more details.)
It is anticipated that University of Bergen, Norway, will appoint a
postdoc
to work on this project for a term of 30 months starting in early 2000.
You
will be based in Bergen under the direction of me.
Salary is about NOK 320,000.
If you are interested please email me as soon as possible. If you
know of
someone else who is interested, please forward this posting.
Best regards
Lars Knudsen
Lars R. Knudsen, Assoc.Prof. Tlph. +47 55 58 41 57 (direct)
University of Bergen Facs. +47 55 58 41 99
Dept.of Informatics, PB 7800 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
N-5020 Bergen, Norway http://www.ii.uib.no/~larsr/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Macon)
Subject: Re: A dangerous question
Date: 30 Nov 1999 05:06:25 EST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johnny Bravo) wrote:
The whole scheme hinges on a libertarian society that allows violence
under certain conditions. This is dubious at best. He also gives
arguments as to why this would be legal under US law. New laws or new
court interpetations of present laws would appear as soon as the service
was noticed.
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From: Volker Hetzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FEAL-8 algorithm
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:13:16 +0100
SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY wrote:
> If you want to keep your job do what the big corparations do. Just do
> the job they want. When there done after you pocket the money. Then
> tell them you can make it better. But if you give to much static up
> front you may not get to do the job at all.
I don't know what companies you're thinking of but at least around here
it's different and our customers WANT a constructive relationship with us.
Greetings!
Volker
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