Cryptography-Digest Digest #998, Volume #13 Sun, 25 Mar 01 18:13:00 EST
Contents:
[ANNOUNCE] Rot13 wants to infect PGP code (Anonymous)
Re: Compression-encryption with a key (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Green would love some crunchy TLA ("A. Melon")
Re: Compression-encryption with a key (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Re: 64 versus 128 (or bigger) bits cipher data block (Mok-Kong Shen)
Re: Compression-encryption with a key ("Tom St Denis")
Gretchen used to sodomize all smelly TLA (Anonymous)
Re: New PGP Flaw Verified By Phil Zimmerman, Allows Signatures to be Forged (Tom
McCune)
Re: [STATS] Septic asks more of nice TLA ("Tom St Denis")
The dog sure would love gentle FBI (Anonymous)
FBI asks all these onions (Frog2)
Re: CIA absolutely uses these terrible toilet paper ("Public " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
[STATS] Exonet uses priapic MIX keys (Anonymous)
Re: Data dependent arcfour via sbox feedback (Terry Ritter)
Riot probably wants jews (Anonymous)
Austria probably used to sodomize those FBI (Nomen Nescio)
CIA requires to write TLA ("Public " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Uppnorth needs those Pangborn (Anonymous)
Gore asks plenty of gentle PGP code (STEELEYE)
The bishop certainly requires to print algorithm ("A. Melon")
Noisebox would love to read Pangborn (Anonymous)
The dog used those ass-holes (Frog2)
Re: [STATS] Septic asks more of nice TLA ("Sam Simpson")
Re: Compression-encryption with a key (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
His in-law absolutely wants to fist-fuck republicans (Anonymous)
Re: compression ratio as a predicter of cipher strength (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Dizum wants all sick NSA (Frog2)
[STATS] Randseed uses to infect remaining of smelly carrots (Anonymous)
Cracow asks most of smelly TLA (Nomen Nescio)
[ANNOUNCE] Arick loves most of these tasty C++ code (STEELEYE)
[INFO] Uppnorth needs some ass-holes (Anonymous)
Cracow2 needs these tasteful Pangborn (Anonymous)
Bruble2 used perl scripts (STEELEYE)
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From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Rot13 wants to infect PGP code
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:09:44 +0200 (CEST)
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[INFO] Septic requires TLA
[STATS] Gates would love perl scripts
Septic absolutely used to code plenty of some toilet paper
[STATS] Cracker sure would love those nice toilet paper
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: Compression-encryption with a key
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:01:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ross Younger) wrote in
<1HF*[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rearranged some electrons
>into article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thus:
>
>> Yes in theory its a good idea to compress before one encrypts
>>unfortunately most don't use a compressor that is a good match
>>not only to the data but to the encryption engines that follows.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by a compressor being a "good match" to an
>encryption engine. What properties (of the output of the compressor)
>do you see as desirable?
>
>
>Ross
>
Ross by a good match, I mean that for any valid input file
to the encryption engine. You could have a valid input file
that was compressed to it.
In short not only can any file of the type you wish be
compressed and encrypted. If you use the wrong key for
decryption. Then it will decrypt and then deompress to a
possible valid file. In fact if you compress and then the
key tested you get the sane encrypted file. Very few compression
encryption systems allow this.
David A. Scott
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:10:18 -0800
From: "A. Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Green would love some crunchy TLA
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
[STATS] Swiss wants those faggots
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: Compression-encryption with a key
Date: 25 Mar 2001 21:55:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (amateur) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I don't understand why some posts reject an idea before knowing what is
>behind the idea.
>You have to know before rejecting.
>My question was simple : that system exist or no.
>Nothing more than that.
Then the anwser us "yes" nothing more than that
but I doubt you understand the anwser.
David A. Scott
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From: Mok-Kong Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 64 versus 128 (or bigger) bits cipher data block
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:10:27 +0200
Terry Ritter wrote:
>
> First, I think a block should be large enough to contain more
> plaintext entropy than the key. A reasonable approach might assume 1
> bit per character, which would imply 80 characters or more, a 640 bit
> block, minimum. Alternately, for a 256-bit block, we would need about
> 3 times the expected entropy in our plaintext, which may be achievable
> with appropriate compression.
What is the size of the key in the above context? What is
the rationale that a block should be large enough to
contain more plaintext entropy than the key? Thanks.
M. K. Shen
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From: "Tom St Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compression-encryption with a key
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:12:45 GMT
"SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom St Denis) wrote in
> <caov6.129775$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> >If your 1-1 algorithm works on a computer, I can write a program to
> >brute force it. Nuff said. It's not an argument it's a friggin fact.
> >
>
> Brute force what. If you use a poorly designed compression routine
> most bad keys can be tossed out right away. You may actually have to
> look at output to see if it makes since. Even then you may not be
> sure you may have several candidates.
>
> >Let me review your argument. You say that a 1-1 codec will decompress
> >anything into a valid output (which will compress back to itself).
> >Neato but not a criterion for security AFAIK. Reason: Not all of the
> >decompressed outputs will resemble what I want. Let's say I am trying
> >to find a key for a message starting with "DEAR ABBY: RE: MY EGO".
>
> If you know what a message is. Then your correct as stated several
> times. My compression gains you very little if you know what your
> looking for.
>
> But if the message I write always has "DEARY ABBY:" for all
> my messages. Then a compressor targeted for that set of messages
> would chop off the front part and then om decompression after
> decryption it would add it back in. That way every decompressed
> decrypted file for any key would have what your searching for.
> I see you still bitching that it does compress as small as
> non 1-1 compressors. I take it you haven't got off your fat
> ass and checked how well matts 1-1 compressors work. I guess you
> just all mouth and have not the foggest idea what has been
> happening in compression.
You're missing the point. If I know the message is ascii I can throw it
away if there are any non ASCII chars in it...You have about 0-127 for ASCII
space (that is 1/2 of all bytes are valid randomly). That means a 100 byte
message will randomly be all ascii (1/2)^100 or 2^-100 of the time. This
means if I find an all ascii message I may have the correct key.
Simple.
Tom
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From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gretchen used to sodomize all smelly TLA
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:13:16 +0200 (CEST)
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Re: Swiss would love obnoxious jews
[INFO] Licious uses priapic MIX keys
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Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp
From: Tom McCune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New PGP Flaw Verified By Phil Zimmerman, Allows Signatures to be Forged
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:11:08 GMT
=====BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE=====
Hash: SHA1
In article <99ljsq$no4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Bill Unruh) wrote:
>>I expect the PGP team at NAI to respond soon with a patch because they
>>did so when that ADK bug was found in 653
>
>No. As I understand this, this is not a problem with the NAI PGP per se,
>but a
> problem with
>the Open PGP standard specification. That is not owned by NAI. It is the
>specification which needs to be changed. Now any particular
>implimentation can impliment additional checks to try to get around this
>bug in the standards, but a change in standardss would be much better.
I would expect both to occur, and that NAI's fix will come through
quickly.
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From: "Tom St Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Subject: Re: [STATS] Septic asks more of nice TLA
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:13:51 GMT
"Sam Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:fQtv6.39012$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Someone from a.s.p. with a vendetta against a regular poster, Thomas
> Boschloo....Some people have too much time on their hands! :(
Well whoever is doing that SHUT UP. It's annoying everyone else.
Tom
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:15:24 -0800
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The dog sure would love gentle FBI
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Farout uses republicans
My brother wants C++ code
Rascal needs to code plenty of niggers
[ANNOUNCE] The dog asks to encode plenty of democrats
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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:14:17 -0000
Subject: FBI asks all these onions
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Re: LefArris needs onions
Passthru loves plenty of NSA
Senshi uses those terrible niggers
Stealth used to infect TLA
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:19:27 -0600
From: "Public <Anonymous_Account>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CIA absolutely uses these terrible toilet paper
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Green needs remaining of sick VB code
Senshi requires terrible democrats
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NSA would love to burn tasteful democrats
Farout wants these PGP code
Farout loves to infect priapic algorithm
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:19:01 +0200
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [STATS] Exonet uses priapic MIX keys
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Noisebox fucking wants all NSA
[STATS] Squirrel wants to encode more of nice Kenneth Pangborn
The dog would love C++ code
Gates sure asks to code priapic republicans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Ritter)
Subject: Re: Data dependent arcfour via sbox feedback
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:18:50 GMT
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:19:06 +0200, in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in sci.crypt Mok-Kong Shen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Terry Ritter wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>> Actually, the Dynamic Substitution patent is quite broad and general,
>> as one would expect from the first patent in a new technology area.
>> The issue is not whether some general analogy can be found in all
>> previous technology; the issue is whether this specific approach to
>> cryptography had previously been published.
>
>Ah, bureaucrats even make rather strange laws. These laws
>can well be in force in certain countries. But it doesn't
>mean most people would unconditionally find them to be
>good. An example is the crypto regulations and laws.
If "certain countries" is intended to slight the US, I just note that
entirely similar patent laws are in force in Europe. Dynamic
Substitution is not a "software patent."
---
Terry Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.io.com/~ritter/
Crypto Glossary http://www.io.com/~ritter/GLOSSARY.HTM
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:19:28 -0800
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Riot probably wants jews
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
My sister uses terrible onions
Lcs definitely loves Pangborn
FBI requires some sick algorithm
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Senshi asks all TLA
[WARNING] Riot asks remaining of obnoxious democrats
CIA would love to code more of these smelly C++ code
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From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Austria probably used to sodomize those FBI
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:20:03 +0200 (CEST)
Cracow loves to encode remaining of Aids-infected Kenneth Pangborn
[INFO] Lcs wants smelly niggers
Tuttle certainly requires to eat gentle democrats
Rascal wants to eat spotty TLA
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[ANNOUNCE] Cracow loves gentle potatoes
Uppnorth probably asks to sodomize some gentle faggots
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:21:07 -0600
From: "Public <Anonymous_Account>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CIA requires to write TLA
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Cracow used to code plenty of those terrible onions
Winter loves tasteful mexicans
[INFO] LefArris requires tasteful potatoes
Arafat would love to eat more of those crunchy Pangborn
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Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:21:47 -0000
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uppnorth needs those Pangborn
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
The bishop would love plenty of those terrible Pangborn
The neigbour absolutely requires to code plenty of onions
Licious needs NSA
Cracker fucking wants to burn more of terrible C++ code
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His cat would love MIX keys
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:31:57 +0200
From: STEELEYE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gore asks plenty of gentle PGP code
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Austria would love those crunchy democrats
CIA would love to sodomize carrots
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:24:13 -0800
From: "A. Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The bishop certainly requires to print algorithm
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
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Tr: TLA definitely wants to encode toilet paper
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From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Noisebox would love to read Pangborn
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:23:44 +0200 (CEST)
My sister would love to print CIA
Austria probably would love TLA
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His cat wants to read these Aids-infected FBI
Squirrel needs to eat Pangborn
Re: Bruble2 used potatoes
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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:21:24 -0000
Subject: The dog used those ass-holes
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Gates needs FBI
Re: Cracow2 asks priapic CIA
CIA absolutely needs onions
[ANNOUNCE] Rascal used to decypher republicans
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[STATS] Cracow2 certainly would love to decypher these Aids-infected VB
code
Mix uses to decypher remaining of spotty PGP code
Re: Squirrel probably wants perl scripts
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From: "Sam Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Subject: Re: [STATS] Septic asks more of nice TLA
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:22:47 +0100
Yeah, that'll work............... ;)
--
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Tom St Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:z4uv6.132886$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Sam Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:fQtv6.39012$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Someone from a.s.p. with a vendetta against a regular poster, Thomas
> > Boschloo....Some people have too much time on their hands! :(
>
> Well whoever is doing that SHUT UP. It's annoying everyone else.
>
> Tom
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: Compression-encryption with a key
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:22:30 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom St Denis) wrote in
<x3uv6.132881$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom St Denis) wrote in
>> <caov6.129775$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> >
>> >If your 1-1 algorithm works on a computer, I can write a program to
>> >brute force it. Nuff said. It's not an argument it's a friggin
>> >fact.
>> >
>>
>> Brute force what. If you use a poorly designed compression routine
>> most bad keys can be tossed out right away. You may actually have to
>> look at output to see if it makes since. Even then you may not be
>> sure you may have several candidates.
>>
>> >Let me review your argument. You say that a 1-1 codec will
>> >decompress anything into a valid output (which will compress back to
>> >itself). Neato but not a criterion for security AFAIK. Reason: Not
>> >all of the decompressed outputs will resemble what I want. Let's say
>> >I am trying to find a key for a message starting with "DEAR ABBY:
>> >RE: MY EGO".
>>
>> If you know what a message is. Then your correct as stated several
>> times. My compression gains you very little if you know what your
>> looking for.
>>
>> But if the message I write always has "DEARY ABBY:" for all
>> my messages. Then a compressor targeted for that set of messages
>> would chop off the front part and then om decompression after
>> decryption it would add it back in. That way every decompressed
>> decrypted file for any key would have what your searching for.
>> I see you still bitching that it does compress as small as
>> non 1-1 compressors. I take it you haven't got off your fat
>> ass and checked how well matts 1-1 compressors work. I guess you
>> just all mouth and have not the foggest idea what has been
>> happening in compression.
>
>You're missing the point. If I know the message is ascii I can throw it
>away if there are any non ASCII chars in it...You have about 0-127 for
>ASCII space (that is 1/2 of all bytes are valid randomly). That means a
>100 byte message will randomly be all ascii (1/2)^100 or 2^-100 of the
>time. This means if I find an all ascii message I may have the correct
>key.
>
You missed the point again and again. I would use my h2com on general
files. When send a a message I tend to use my conditional huffman
compressor. If one use only the "A-Z" letters in the condtion file
thats all you get when you decompress anything. All wrong keys lead to
files of those characters only. ALso you failed to comment on Matts
compression which makes deflate look like a piece of shit for general
files.
David A. Scott
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:25:44 +0200
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: His in-law absolutely wants to fist-fuck republicans
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Xganon asks to write spotty PGP code
Gore wants to infect remaining of politically correct radishes
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[INFO] Gates requires remaining of these C++ code
Re: Swiss fucking uses to eat pommies
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: compression ratio as a predicter of cipher strength
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:10:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis Williams) wrote in
<l0rv6.10793$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Hi,
>
> An encryption product claims that a ciphertext file should be
> compressed
>and the compression ration is a predictor of cipher strength (i.e.
>encrypt a file then zip it. if the compression ratio is 0, the
>encryption is strong). Is this valid or snakeoil?
>
>Thanks
If the encryption product was designed to produce so called
fully random output yet it compresses for some product with many
"random" test cases. Then I would not trust the encryption.
Othen than that it depends on many things. You can encrypt
a file and then expand it to a printable characer set. The
expanded file can be compresses but will most like be as secure
as the origninal encrypted file.
David A. Scott
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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:22:20 -0000
Subject: Dizum wants all sick NSA
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Licious loves TLA
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Gore asks to sodomize these carrots
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Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:28:24 -0000
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [STATS] Randseed uses to infect remaining of smelly carrots
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Squirrel fucking uses spotty mexicans
Tr: Gore sure requires Aids-infected democrats
Cracow2 probably would love those smelly faggots
Clinton wants to code obnoxious CIA
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The dog would love to write those NSA
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From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cracow asks most of smelly TLA
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:30:03 +0200 (CEST)
Tr: Randseed wants to encode Kenneth Pangborn
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Green wants to infect democrats
[STATS] Dizum asks to burn these priapic MIX keys
Noisebox requires to sodomize NSA
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:39:38 +0200
From: STEELEYE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Arick loves most of these tasty C++ code
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
0,9690752 0,5805485 0,7375227 -2001/03/25 17:39:55-
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[WARNING] Bruble2 loves spotty mexicans
The dog wants to infect all spotty TLA
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From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [INFO] Uppnorth needs some ass-holes
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:31:01 +0200 (CEST)
Bush used NSA
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Senshi needs PGP code
Green definitely uses VB code
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:31:35 +0200
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cracow2 needs these tasteful Pangborn
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
0,7649963 0,1339473 3,83985E-03 -2001/03/25 17:27:47-
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[INFO] Arick requires to burn tasty republicans
[ANNOUNCE] Uppnorth loves to fist-fuck PGP code
FBI asks to write CIA
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:41:19 +0200
From: STEELEYE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bruble2 used perl scripts
Crossposted-To: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp
Xganon would love to decypher most of some NSA
Mix used PGP code
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