Cryptography-Digest Digest #301, Volume #14       Sun, 6 May 01 11:13:00 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Tiny s-boxes (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
  Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone  ("Thomas J. 
Boschloo")
  Re: Cryptanalysis Question: Determing The Algorithm? (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
  Re: Best encrypting algoritme (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
  Re: Tiny s-boxes (Tim Tyler)
  Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone expected all 
along... ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone expected all 
along... (Boschloo STINKS)
  Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone expected all 
along... (Boschloo STINKS)
  Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone expected all 
along... (Boschloo STINKS)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: Tiny s-boxes
Date: 6 May 2001 12:59:38 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Tyler) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  Tim I know that you know I use as my favorite S-box a
19 bit by 19 but single cycle S-box.  But I have many
questions about them too. S-boxes can be used in variuos
places in encryption systems so wouldn't the type of S-box
depend a lot on where its used. Another thing I am curious
about is the number of cycles in the S-box. Should it be
random should it be one like mine. Or for the use I have
is there some formual saying like 90% of time use 1 then
9% of time use 2 and so on, Since my set is quite larger
should one sring the output out in cyclic order and reject
keys that lead to strings that can be compresses thus trying
to ensure that only high k.. complexity strings are used.
I think about these things since at times I may map down to
a small key system. But still relying on a large keyenc.key
file of over a million bytes.

David A. Scott
-- 
SCOTT19U.ZIP NOW AVAILABLE WORLD WIDE "OLD VERSIOM"
        http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong/scott19u.zip
My website http://members.nbci.com/ecil/index.htm
My crypto code http://radiusnet.net/crypto/archive/scott/
MY Compression Page http://members.nbci.com/ecil/compress.htm
**NOTE FOR EMAIL drop the roman "five" ***
Disclaimer:I am in no way responsible for any of the statements
 made in the above text. For all I know I might be drugged or
 something..
 No I'm not paranoid. You all think I'm paranoid, don't you!


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From: "Thomas J. Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.discuss,alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone 
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 15:20:27 +0200

[I hope this message will explain some of my back-ground and history in
these newsgroups, although I don't read or post much in sci.crypt (goes
above my little tiny head)]

[BTW SORRY, my fault, I somehow read this message from an old news
account I had somewhere else, Chris didn't repost :-( Still, I think I
should post it as I didn't at first]

=====BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE=====

"Chris (requested txt: Thomas J. Boschloo for killfiles)" wrote:
> 
> Well, time is up, game is over. Lets see how TJB went:-

Thanks Chris, I wanted a copy of your nice HTML-post, but it was already
off the servers when I got that idea :-( I guess you won't mind if I put
it on my homepage? Would you? I won't put any words into your mouth that
you haven't put there yourself. Besides, still having trouble with your
systems date? Don't worry, I like you that way :-)

BTW There is not any chance you are going to digitally sign messages
like this, is there?

>  Requirement 1.
> 
>     Thomas must demonstrate an altered version of the protected pgp262i
>     program executing.
> 
>  Evidence from Thomas:
> 
>     none produced

Who's requirement was that? Sam's one that I somehow missed?! You seem
quite handy with Google, perhaps you could look it up again and re-read
what I have said.

>  Requirement 2.
> 
>     Thomas must demonstrate a emulator for a piece of hardware (eg:
>     they PC keyboard controller) which functions corectly, undetected
> 
>     by the protected pgp262i.
> 
>  Evidence from Thomas:
> 
>     none produced

Screen Thief will do the job, as I have told you. You have even been
kindly supplied with the documents describing the (software) programming
of PIC1 and PIC2 used in the DOS version of Screen Thief.

>  Requirement 3.
> 
>     Thomas must alter the protected program in a way that would
>     indicate the potential success of his claim regarding unauthorized
>     activation.
> 
>  Evidence from Thomas:
> 
>     none produced

My little patch does that in real-time without your program noticing.
What more do you want? My old pre-school teacher had a saying: "Why do
something the easy way, when you can do it the hard way" (Thanks Mr.
Kruijff! Fond memories).

>  Requirement 4.
> 
>     Thomas must extract the encrypted PGP.EXE from its self-encrypted
> 
>     netsafe package to substiantiate this claim.
> 
>  Evidence from Thomas:
> 
>     none produced

That one is simple. Just replace an INT 21 with an INT 63 in the
original PGP executable. I don't see how I could proof such a claim by
providing such a changed (and self-crashing) executable.

>  Requirement 5.
> 
>     produce a crack which will log keystrokes of the protected PGP
>     application, without the ordinary user noticing.
> 
>  Evidence from Thomas:
> 
>     pgp262i-ns49crack2.zip
> 
>  Result:
> 
>     1. the tendered "crack" logs the current time.  thomas was warned 
>        of this deficiency twice by two different people, and failed to
>        rectify the problem.

It does more than log the time, but appearently you were not able to
figure this out ;-)

>     2. the "crack" triggers several antivirus packages because it's (A)
>        a .com program with the same name as a .EXE program (B) a hidden
>        .com program (C) writes to itself, which is ample evidence to an
>        ordinary user that something is wrong.

OK, what file should I write to then? I was thinking about creating a
propietary FILE00xx.CHK format somewhere in the root directory. Besides,
utilities like LIST.COM write to themselves and they were written before
you were born (phun).

>     3. the "crack" shows up with DIR/a, and errors out if installed on
>        a write-protected floppy (a usual place for a DOS PGP.EXE
>        program to reside).

So where do you put your RANDSEED.BIN file then? You do agree that that
same location would be a better place, wouldn't you?

>  (out of scope claim)
> 
>      "Audio-Visual Authentication would not help against an adversary
>      like myself. (Nor does it leave much room in memory for the pgp
>      version you are trying to protect)"
> 
>  Evidence from Thomas:
> 
>     none produced

Man, it even crashes on my computer the same way your Netsafer 4.9c
version (which you only posted to Sam and Me by e-mail) does when ran in
conjunction with a utility like your fine Troydemo.com. Of course, all
these files can be downloaded from my private homepage. Netsafe 4.8c and
below should not have such restrictions and should log all the way (even
if due to some miracle Netsafe 4.9c does not crash your own machine when
used in conjunction with Troydemo or any other INT 21 handler that your
software 'fuc*s' up. I could find the bug for you as I have full access
to your programs assembly code, but then again, you don't seem like a
very worthwhile employer).

>  Overall Results.
> 
>  Thomas has proven beyond any doubt that 100% of his utterings are
>  complete rubbish, and delivered ample justification to everyone for
>  his permanent place in their killfiles.

Some claim that you are indeed the same person as the one calling
himself Script-Kiddie. You sure hate me enough, want to censor me, and
have show yourself to have all the skills required to be a
Script-Kiddie. Nothing more will you ever be in my eyes. I even wonder
if you are or were worth any of my time at all, but it sure was fun
while you lasted.

>                                 [Image]

Wow, I didn't see any picture in my browser. Let me guess, this is one
of your famous webbugs that you also try to make money off, don't you?

So, everybody, have some fun about Chris and visit my fine homepage at
(see my PGP-signature).

High regards to everyone and sorry for the occational troll that seems
to get stuck to the profile of my manly leather booths.

Hi!
Thomas ;-0

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-- 
"Software patents harm the flow of free information"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: Cryptanalysis Question: Determing The Algorithm?
Date: 6 May 2001 13:16:17 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom St Denis) wrote in 
<mAbJ6.26992$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


  Appearently you could not follow the thread and
the concept is above you. I had hoped your still young
enough to use your brain a little but I see thats
a little to much to hope for.

>I bet you can't and won't and you will go on a wild tangent about how much
>BICOM is better.  (please prove me wrong here!)

   No little boy I will not mentioned it in my response to you
obviously the concepts in it are far over your head. So I will
stop playing your childish games. If you want to learn something
about bijective compression encyrption systems let me know.
and as you can see I proved you wrong again. I will not tell
you how much better a certain product is. It would be like telling
a 5 year old and accomplish the same results. You seem incapable
of staying on thread and fly off on wild tangents. I can descibe 
simple systems based on 2 bit keys and such. I don't have the time
or money to expand the concpets up to keys of more than a few bits.
If you thinkg the NSA doesn't your a bigger fool than I thought,
If you think that problems explained with small keys sytems don't
apply to large systems unless you see a break before your eyes we
are just wasting time writting to each other.


David A. Scott
-- 
SCOTT19U.ZIP NOW AVAILABLE WORLD WIDE "OLD VERSIOM"
        http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong/scott19u.zip
My website http://members.nbci.com/ecil/index.htm
My crypto code http://radiusnet.net/crypto/archive/scott/
MY Compression Page http://members.nbci.com/ecil/compress.htm
**NOTE FOR EMAIL drop the roman "five" ***
Disclaimer:I am in no way responsible for any of the statements
 made in the above text. For all I know I might be drugged or
 something..
 No I'm not paranoid. You all think I'm paranoid, don't you!


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY)
Subject: Re: Best encrypting algoritme
Date: 6 May 2001 13:25:41 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom St Denis) wrote in
<1UbJ6.27172$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>
>"SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom St Denis) wrote in
>> <BR4J6.25523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> >
>> >I still don't get your main points.  If the system is a FSM (Finite
>> >State Machine) such as any computer program (they must be finite)
>> >then there are only a *finite* amount of states the program can be
>> >in.  This means that no matter what you do, if it's a FSM then I can
>> >write a program to brute force it.  There is no way to escape this
>> >logic.  You can only make brute force impractical (i.e huge key, or
>> >something to that effect).
>>
>>    Tom what you lack and refuse to learn or even seem to engage your
>> brain is. I could write a cyrpto system with even a 1 byte block
>> size. and 2 bits of key space. Lets say I take my messages I don't
>> have many but I compress them done using bijective compression.
>> and then encrypt that bijectively compressed message with a 2 bit
>> key using bijective encryption.If you write a super duper brute force
>> machine you may get all of the 4 message I may of sent. There may have
>been
>> 407 messages. You have reduced it to 4. Know which message is it.
>> The four are all equally likely.
>
>Yeah but you can't break a real cipher even in ECB mode with a single
>block. If you gave me say 15, 1-byte blocks with this 2-bit key I could
>figure out what the key is.  No matter what you do.

   Actaully Tom we are in the bar room betting area. If you
can find a trusted person by both of us. I will write a cyrpto
system then use a bijective type of compression encryption system.
to map a message to at least 15 bytes. You then have a one in four
chance of winning money. How about 20 dollars. I don't like barroom
bets unless I have the odds in my favor.

  Are you sure you understand the rules? I can flat save you
the time of decrypting and decompressing the messages. And just
give you the 4 possible messages. OR is this to much for you?




David A. Scott
-- 
SCOTT19U.ZIP NOW AVAILABLE WORLD WIDE "OLD VERSIOM"
        http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong/scott19u.zip
My website http://members.nbci.com/ecil/index.htm
My crypto code http://radiusnet.net/crypto/archive/scott/
MY Compression Page http://members.nbci.com/ecil/compress.htm
**NOTE FOR EMAIL drop the roman "five" ***
Disclaimer:I am in no way responsible for any of the statements
 made in the above text. For all I know I might be drugged or
 something..
 No I'm not paranoid. You all think I'm paranoid, don't you!


------------------------------

From: Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tiny s-boxes
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:02:41 GMT

SCOTT19U.ZIP_GUY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:   Tim I know that you know I use as my favorite S-box a
: 19 bit by 19 but single cycle S-box.

Yes, I was aware of that.

: S-boxes can be used in variuos places in encryption systems so wouldn't
: the type of S-box depend a lot on where its used.

That's quite possible.  Even the same environment might be best with
different size s-boxes, depending on whether speed, security or size
is considered important.

I can't help thinking taht if large s-boxes are good you should probably
pick the largest s-box that fits in your L1 cache, or some such - but if
small s-boxes have advantages more people should look at 4x4 and 3x3
boxes.  The 8x8 boxes that seem so common seem to me to be too
middle-of-the-road.

I suspect software implementation considerations may be involved - in
software 8 bits has special meaning and the size of a LUT is practically
irrelevant (unless the cache starts to overflow).

: Another thing I am curious about is the number of cycles in the S-box.
: Should it be random should it be one like mine.

That doesn't seem to be specific enough for me to understand what you're
asking.  Bear in mind I have very little knowledge about the details of
your cypher.

The issue of (if you're using large s-boxes) whether to use random boxes 
or whether to test them for desirable qualities is not one I have any good
answers to - though I do know that many of the tests that can be performed
on s-boxes begin taking a very long time as the size of the box
increases.

I think I'm essentially inclined to tow the party line - if the boxes are
"big enough", testing them is unlikely to improve their qualities very
significantly.

To continue with your K-complexity idea, it's similar to testing a random
string to see if it is patterned.  If the string is "long enough" this
becomes pretty pointless, since the chances of it being patterned
are too small to concern yourself with.
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Subject: Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone 
expected all along...
Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.discuss,alt.privacy.anon-server
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 16:19:48 +0200 (CEST)

On Sun, 06 May 2001, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Boschloo STINKS 
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a TROLL
    Boschloo is a CLOWN 
    Against Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    SCREW Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo insanity
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE

NONSENSE from Boschloo, as usual,
 trying to occupy frontstage with his pretense of knowledge
 
HISTORY:
That Boschloo bozo is a clown and a troll who has been looming around for nearly a 
year.
Don't mistake a "regular" (troll) with a knowledgeable person: that self-proclaimed 
"security expert" is not even a remailer user. In the past, he proved himself unable 
to check a PGP signature, and got ridicule from every single technical topic he wanted 
to talk about.
Besides false or inaccurate or misleading technical misinformation, his posts are 
about his avowed mental illness, or for bashing remops or real freedom fighters: he 
likes to quarrel with every one, and stir shit. Sometimes, it is even pure delirium 
(when he misses his pills?)
One of his last actions was to stage a hoax about his own suicide, just to try to grab 
some sympathy, after he had been exposed as a troll and technically incompetent.
The worst being his teasing of Script-Kiddie until it triggered a new flood on apas.
Of course, he refuses to apologize.
Actually, the level of contempt he shows for remailer users:
  they don't give their names, while he does
  that can't do anything against him, without giving their names
is in no way different from what is displayed by Pangborn, Burnore and the like

Ignore him completely, killfile him, respect others' killfiles 

KILLFILE:
To put him in your killfile, put "Author: Boschloo"
That will make disappear both him and people who warn about him
If you want to tell him to buzz off, or warn about him,
 use a nickname containing "Boschloo" (Boschloo Hater, Boschloo Sucks,...)
 to accomodate such killfile for "regulars", and still warn newbies

COURAGE:
Boschloo is getting _no_ answer from apas any more.
He has to crosspost to various newsgroups to try to grab some attention.
In a few months, it will be gone.

    Stop Boschloo diarrhea
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Fight Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo MADNESS
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo INSANITY
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE
    SCREW Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    Boschloo is a CLOWN
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo STINKS
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo PLAGUE
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea




------------------------------

Date: 6 May 2001 14:16:06 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boschloo STINKS)
Subject: Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone 
expected all along...
Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.discuss,alt.privacy.anon-server

On Sun, 06 May 2001, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Boschloo STINKS 
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a TROLL
    Boschloo is a CLOWN 
    Against Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    SCREW Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo insanity
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE

NONSENSE from Boschloo, as usual,
 trying to occupy frontstage with his pretense of knowledge
 
HISTORY:
That Boschloo bozo is a clown and a troll who has been looming around for nearly a 
year.
Don't mistake a "regular" (troll) with a knowledgeable person: that self-proclaimed 
"security expert" is not even a remailer user. In the past, he proved himself unable 
to check a PGP signature, and got ridicule from every single technical topic he wante
d to talk about.
Besides false or inaccurate or misleading technical misinformation, his posts are 
about his avowed mental illness, or for bashing remops or real freedom fighters: he 
likes to quarrel with every one, and stir shit. Sometimes, it is even pure delirium 
(whe
n he misses his pills?)
One of his last actions was to stage a hoax about his own suicide, just to try to grab 
some sympathy, after he had been exposed as a troll and technically incompetent.
The worst being his teasing of Script-Kiddie until it triggered a new flood on apas.
Of course, he refuses to apologize.
Actually, the level of contempt he shows for remailer users:
  they don't give their names, while he does
  that can't do anything against him, without giving their names
is in no way different from what is displayed by Pangborn, Burnore and the like

Ignore him completely, killfile him, respect others' killfiles 

KILLFILE:
To put him in your killfile, put "Author: Boschloo"
That will make disappear both him and people who warn about him
If you want to tell him to buzz off, or warn about him,
 use a nickname containing "Boschloo" (Boschloo Hater, Boschloo Sucks,...)
 to accomodate such killfile for "regulars", and still warn newbies

COURAGE:
Boschloo is getting _no_ answer from apas any more.
He has to crosspost to various newsgroups to try to grab some attention.
In a few months, it will be gone.

    Stop Boschloo diarrhea
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Fight Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo MADNESS
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo INSANITY
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE
    SCREW Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    Boschloo is a CLOWN
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo STINKS
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo PLAGUE
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea




------------------------------

Date: 6 May 2001 14:16:06 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boschloo STINKS)
Subject: Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone 
expected all along...
Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.discuss,alt.privacy.anon-server

On Sun, 06 May 2001, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Boschloo STINKS 
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a TROLL
    Boschloo is a CLOWN 
    Against Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    SCREW Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo insanity
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE

NONSENSE from Boschloo, as usual,
 trying to occupy frontstage with his pretense of knowledge
 
HISTORY:
That Boschloo bozo is a clown and a troll who has been looming around for nearly a 
year.
Don't mistake a "regular" (troll) with a knowledgeable person: that self-proclaimed 
"security expert" is not even a remailer user. In the past, he proved himself unable 
to check a PGP signature, and got ridicule from every single technical topic he wante
d to talk about.
Besides false or inaccurate or misleading technical misinformation, his posts are 
about his avowed mental illness, or for bashing remops or real freedom fighters: he 
likes to quarrel with every one, and stir shit. Sometimes, it is even pure delirium 
(whe
n he misses his pills?)
One of his last actions was to stage a hoax about his own suicide, just to try to grab 
some sympathy, after he had been exposed as a troll and technically incompetent.
The worst being his teasing of Script-Kiddie until it triggered a new flood on apas.
Of course, he refuses to apologize.
Actually, the level of contempt he shows for remailer users:
  they don't give their names, while he does
  that can't do anything against him, without giving their names
is in no way different from what is displayed by Pangborn, Burnore and the like

Ignore him completely, killfile him, respect others' killfiles 

KILLFILE:
To put him in your killfile, put "Author: Boschloo"
That will make disappear both him and people who warn about him
If you want to tell him to buzz off, or warn about him,
 use a nickname containing "Boschloo" (Boschloo Hater, Boschloo Sucks,...)
 to accomodate such killfile for "regulars", and still warn newbies

COURAGE:
Boschloo is getting _no_ answer from apas any more.
He has to crosspost to various newsgroups to try to grab some attention.
In a few months, it will be gone.

    Stop Boschloo diarrhea
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Fight Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo MADNESS
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo INSANITY
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE
    SCREW Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    Boschloo is a CLOWN
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo STINKS
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo PLAGUE
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea




------------------------------

Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:13:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Comp Results: Thomas Boschloo FAILS to prove himself, as everyone 
expected all along...
Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.discuss,alt.privacy.anon-server
From: Boschloo STINKS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

NOTICE: This message may not have been sent by the Sender Name 
above.  Always use cryptographic digital signatures to verify 
the identity of the sender of any usenet post or e-mail.



On Sun, 06 May 2001, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Boschloo STINKS 
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a TROLL
    Boschloo is a CLOWN 
    Against Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    SCREW Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo insanity
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE

NONSENSE from Boschloo, as usual,
 trying to occupy frontstage with his pretense of knowledge
 
HISTORY:
That Boschloo bozo is a clown and a troll who has been looming around for nearly a 
year.
Don't mistake a "regular" (troll) with a knowledgeable person: that self-proclaimed 
"security expert" is not even a remailer user. In the past, he proved himself unable 
to check a PGP signature, and got ridicule from every single technical topic he wanted 
to talk about.
Besides false or inaccurate or misleading technical misinformation, his posts are 
about his avowed mental illness, or for bashing remops or real freedom fighters: he 
likes to quarrel with every one, and stir shit. Sometimes, it is even pure delirium 
(when he misses his pills?)
One of his last actions was to stage a hoax about his own suicide, just to try to grab 
some sympathy, after he had been exposed as a troll and technically incompetent.
The worst being his teasing of Script-Kiddie until it triggered a new flood on apas.
Of course, he refuses to apologize.
Actually, the level of contempt he shows for remailer users:
  they don't give their names, while he does
  that can't do anything against him, without giving their names
is in no way different from what is displayed by Pangborn, Burnore and the like

Ignore him completely, killfile him, respect others' killfiles 

KILLFILE:
To put him in your killfile, put "Author: Boschloo"
That will make disappear both him and people who warn about him
If you want to tell him to buzz off, or warn about him,
 use a nickname containing "Boschloo" (Boschloo Hater, Boschloo Sucks,...)
 to accomodate such killfile for "regulars", and still warn newbies

COURAGE:
Boschloo is getting _no_ answer from apas any more.
He has to crosspost to various newsgroups to try to grab some attention.
In a few months, it will be gone.

    Stop Boschloo diarrhea
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea
    Fight Boschloo
    Stop Boschloo MADNESS
    Stop Boschloo RAT
    Stop Boschloo INSANITY
    Stop Boschloo NONSENSE
    Stop Boschloo NUTS
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo is a PLAGUE
    SCREW Boschloo
    Neuter Boschloo
    Boschloo is a CLOWN
    Boschloo TOO MUCH
    Boschloo STINKS
    Boschloo NO
    Boschloo PLAGUE
    Stop Boschloo posting diarrhea



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