Ok ... here are some references to get started:

1.  Yahoo and Wired and other news articles which
    mentions EU's attempt to discuss Echelon, and
    an attempt to get Congress to hold a hearing
    on the matter:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/despatches/newsid_40000/40671.stm
    http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15295.html

    http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15429.html


http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/wr/story.html?s=v/nm/19981203/wr/privac
y_1.html
    http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15864.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19981112_xex_push_hearing.shtml

    Surprisingly, neither the New York Times nor
    the technology-literate San Jose Mercury have
    said anything about any of this.

2.  Here is something from Duncan Campbell via
    Mok-Kong Shen:

        The following article came from Duncan
        Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> through a
        mailing list:

        __________________________________
        21/9/98

        The debate about ECHELON - last week in
        the European Parliament - has again
        highlighted the role of the NSA station
        at Menwith Hill, Yorkshire.  The report
        prepared earlier this year for the STOA
        (Scientific and Technical Options
        Assessment) of the European Parliament
        resulted in widespread coverage in
        Europe and the US.

        We have recently made a new batch of
        copies of the 1993 Dispatches
        documentary on Menwith Hill - "The Hill"
        - based on revelations based on NSA
        documents obtained by women peace
        protesters at the Hill.   It also covers
        ECHELON and other NSA activities in the
        UK.   Tapes (45 mins) can be ordered
        from:

        Ian Hide
        IPTV Ltd
        1 Meadowbank
        Edinburgh EH8 8JE

        At £10.95 including postage.

        I will e-mail trancripts of the programme
        free of charge to anyone requesting it.

        Duncan Campbell

3.  Here is a quote from UK's Ross Anderson via
    Peter Gutmann of NZ:

        This is probably the best one-sentence
        summary of export controls I've seen.
        It predates the recent Wassenaar
        announcement by about half a day, but is
        even more appropriate in the aftermath:

        "The real aim of current policy is to
        ensure the continued effectiveness of US
        information warfare assets against
        individuals, businesses and governments in
        Europe and elsewhere" -- Ross Anderson,
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

    This probably underscores the real relationship
    between Echelon and the feverish attempt by the
    US and UK to restrict crypto anywhere (including
    domestically).

    My guess is that the current behavior by the FBI
    is either just a copy-cat wanna-be by Louis Freeh
    (probably drooling after the capabilities the NSA
    has), or he is actually being manipulated by

There may be others with better references:

1.  John Young has lots of caches and pointers:

    http://www.jya.com

    Including:

    http://jya.com/ep091498-1.htm

2.  Other people on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] list might have info.
    Cypherpunks tend to be very noisy; "cryptography"
    has better signal to noise ratio.

I kind of wonder if you would be harassed due to
UK's Official Secrets Act?

In any case, I'm copying the "cryptography" list to
see if anyone has any constructive (non-emotional)
information to help you study the matter.

Good luck!  Please let us know what you conclude out
of all of this!

Thanks!

Ern

-----Original Message-----
From: John Lettice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Eurospook plan for Web and wireless bugs


>I think the answer is because we're largely oblivious to it. But we're
>willing to learn, if you'd care to point us in the right direction.
>
>John Lettice
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike magee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: 08 December 1998 11:40
>> To: 'Ernest Hua'
>> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> Subject: RE: Eurospook plan for Web and wireless bugs
>>
>>
>> Oh -- I'll pass that one on to John, who wrote the story....
>>
>> Pray tell him more :)
>>
>> Mike Magee
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ernest Hua [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 2:57 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Eurospook plan for Web and wireless bugs
>>
>> I don't understand something ...
>>
>> Why doesn't The Register have anything
>> on Echelon and the EU discussion which
>> got squashed (undoubtedly by UK or USA
>> lobbying)?  It would appear that both
>> in the USA and in the UK, there is
>> very little news about Echelon and
>> global surveillance.
>>
>> Ern

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