On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Anonymous wrote: > One way to approach this is to have an organization which will verify > contact information. A potential domain name registrant supplies his > contact information in the form of name, address, phone number, or other > identifcation. This information is verified by the usual means. I think the cost of this is prohibitive. The fact is that the enormous majority of DN registrations are honest and non-problematic. And the number of registrations continues to increase at the usual internet speeds. Verification only makes economic sense when there is someone Out There who feels aggrieved. > Then the contact-verifying organization supplies a BLIND signature on > the contact information. We can call this blind signature a > "certified contact token". Once there has been a "challenge" do we need all this? The answer *might* be 'yes' in that there can be malicious challenges (e.g. a government trying to locate dissidents), although this is so far a relatively rare case. > This signature is such that it is verifiable by any third party as > being issued by the contact-verifying organization, but it is blinded > so that there is no hint about what data was signed. There are > various cryptographic methods (simplest being cut and choose) to > ensure that the proper data has been signed, without the resulting [sensible stuff deleted] > > > 2) registrants who provide false contact details can be detected upon a > > challenge by a third party, but the third party does not get to know > > accurate contact details. > > Third parties can verify that names are registered with valid certified > contact tokens. > > There are a couple of possible frauds here. > > One is for someone to get more than one certified contact token. This > could be done simply by having two addresses or two phone numbers. We > can't do much about this, and it is possible in any system. We could > begin to address it by requiring more information in the contact > verification process. Yes, but my mind boggles a bit as to WHAT you could reasonably ask for in a process where the registrant could be anywhere in the world.... > Another fraud is to buy someone else's certified contact token and use > that for some of the registrations. This could be addressed in part > by making it expensive to purchase these tokens (and then relatively > cheap to register domain names). Ultimately, though, Alice buying and > using Bob's certified contact token is essentially equivalent to Alice > paying Bob to register names on behalf of Alice. We can't stop people > from cooperating with each other. > Thanks, but I don't want to build a global ID system (bad, bad, bad) just to solve this relatively small problem.... > > > 3) it is possible for a third party who wishes to challenge the > > registration of Domain DN1 to find out how many other domains have been > > registered by the owner of DN1, and what they are, without necessarily > > finding out the identity of the registrant. > > In this system, all registrations by a single person would use the same > certified contact token. This would allow all third parties to see when > multiple names are being registered by the same person. > Again, if we start with the model that we want easy, cheap, instant registration (that's what the customers want and are used to), then we can't front-end all this. The serious processing/checking can't start until the challenge, I think. A. Michael Froomkin | Professor of Law | [EMAIL PROTECTED] U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm --> It's warm here. <--
Re: Using crypto to solve a part of the DNS/TM mess
Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:05:57 -0500
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