Adam Shostack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I'd suggest starting from the deployment, training, and help desk costs. The >technology is free, getting users to use it is not. I helped several banks >look at this stuff in the late 90s, when cost of a smartcard reader was order >~25, and deployment costs were estimated at $100, and help desk at >$50/user/year.
Banks here have been using SMS-based transaction verification for a few years now (although not done very well, sigh) without, apparently, any real problems (I've been trying to get figures for per-transaction costs out of them for a while now, so far without any success). Since the SMS-based system is just a labour-intensive way of doing what I was proposing but using a cellphone instead of a dedicated device, my guess is that the overhead won't be that bad. If it was, the banks wouldn't be doing it now :-). (Using smart cards as a yardstick isn't terribly useful, as I mentioned in my previous message they're really a deployment DoS mechanism, not a solution). >I don't think smartcards (per se) are the answer. What you really need is >something like a palm pilot, with screen and input and a reasonably >trustworthy OS, along with (as you say) the appropriate UI investment. Smart cards are part of the problem set, not the solution set - they're just an expensive and awkward distraction from solving the real problem. What I was suggesting (and have been for at least ten years :-) is a small external single-function device (no need for an OS) that can't be compromised by malware because there's no attack vector for the malware to get at it. Peter. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]