At 02:11 +1300 09.10.2007, Peter Gutmann wrote:

But if you build a FDE product with it you've got to get the entire product
certified, not just the crypto component.

I don't believe this to be the case.

FIPS 140(-2) is about validating cryptographic implementations. It is not about certifying entire products that contain ample functionality well outside the scope of cryptographic evaluation. That's more of a Common Criteria thing.

That said, one problem with selling FIPSed products to USG is that some auditors are sticklers for version numbers. They can require proof/rep&warrant that the FIPSed version of the crypto is actually in use.

Audit appeasement requirements frequently cause considerable annoyance to both vendors and the end user.

At 14:04 +0100 08.10.2007, Ben Laurie wrote:

? OpenSSL has FIPS 140.

OpenSSL FIPS Object Module 1.1.1 has FIPS 140-2 when running on SUSE 9.0 and HPUX 11i, according to

<http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/1401val2007.htm#733>

In the context of a conversation about whether something formally has FIPS validation or not, the details are important.

Back to the original question...

At 11:27 +0000 08.10.2007, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

Out of curiousity, are any open source FDE products being evaluated?

As far as I recall, none such were submitted for consideration. Bear in mind that the process isn't just about software, but that a commercial entity submits both a product that meets the list of capability checkboxes, and that the entity itself is viable and can provide support and the like.

s.

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