Perry E. Metzger wrote: > Jack Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Out of curiosity, was this other spec Photuris? > > Sadly. That situation was long and complicated and I'd prefer not to > go into it -- and I'd prefer actually if others didn't either, as it > is much more about humans and non-security politics than it is about > security or cryptography.
Isn't this true in general about nearly all security or cryptography? At CyberCash, where we had real RSA/DES in the system, we found that "users want convenience, not security" We built a paypal equivalent on top of our real security. Paypal made it look like they had security, but were convenient. Which company was sold for over a Billion? and which went bankrupt? Most "attacks" are more social engineering than breaking crypto. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]