On Sep 26, 2009, at 18:31, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

SP 800-102 is intended to address the timeliness of the digital
signatures generated using the techniques specified in Federal
Information Processing Standard (FIPS) 186-3. [...] SP 800-102 provides
methods of obtaining assurance of the time of digital signature
generation using a trusted timestamp authority that is trusted by both
the signatory and the verifier.

In the project in which I am involved we have just this problem, but we also have the problem that we can't require the participating parties to use a TTA. I have been attacking this problem from several angles but have not come to a solution.

The setup is this:

Alice advertises that she wants a job done. One of the constraints is that she wants it done by tomorrow, 10am. A number of Bobs apply for the job. Alice trusts none of the Bobs and the Bobs do not trust Alice. Alice doesn't even know the Bobs beforehand. Based on some criterion, Alice chooses a particular Bob. For business reasons, Alice can't force Bob to use a particular TTA, and it's also impossible to stipulate a particular TTA as part of the job description (the reason is that Alice and the Bobs----great band name BTW---won't agree to trust any particular TTA and also don't want to operate their own).

Is there something that could be done that would *not* require a TTA? (I have almost given up on this, but it doesn't hurt to ask.)

Fun,

Stephan

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