On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:

> On 2013-09-01 9:11 PM, Jerry Leichter wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile, on the authentication side, Stuxnet provided evidence that the
>> secret community *does* have capabilities (to conduct a collision attacks)
>> beyond those known to the public - capabilities sufficient to produce fake
>> Windows updates.
>>
>
> Do we know they produced fake windows updates without assistance from
> Microsoft?


Given the reaction from Microsoft, yes.

The Microsoft public affairs people have been demonstrating real anger at
the Flame attack in many forums.

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