On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:37 15AM, James A. Donald wrote:

> On 2010-11-20 8:03 PM, Adam Back wrote:
>> In an attempt to reduce this patent revolt among the technical people, they
>> shipped in a patent attorney expert guy to give us a talk on patents.
>> Apparently the test for "novelty" is so poor as to make you cry.  > So while 
>> I don't think the legal people are morons, ...
> 
> Patent lawyers are quite smart and knowledgeable.  But there is no such thing 
> as a patent judge or a patent jury and never has been.  They are just regular 
> judges judging matters in which they have no relevant expertise, and it 
> shows.  BPAI judges are supposed to have relevant expertise, but they don't, 
> and even if they did, when you are accused of infringing a patent, you don't 
> go before a BPAI judge.

Let me repeat a previous question: do you have *any* first-hand experience with 
patent litigation?  There are a fair number of people on this list who have 
such experience.  There is at least one attorney on this list (who hasn't 
posted publicly).  Might I *strongly* suggest that people confine their 
assertions of fact to things that they've experienced, rather than read on a 
blog or mailing list somewhere?

As for your specific question: opposing counsel can deal with such issues with 
good questioning, either during a deposition or during cross-examination on the 
stand.  If you get the opposing expert contradicting him or herself in front of 
the jury, or unable to explain to the jury the bad answers in a (videotaped) 
deposition, the jury will come to the proper conclusions.

                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb





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