Hah. I'm surprised the term "security theater" wasn't coined earlier!

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen 
> <cryptogra...@patrickmylund.com> wrote:
>
>> One thing that I've sadly seen more times than I can shake a stick at
>> is people leaving in aNULL/eNULL, or not including !aNULL:!eNULL in
>> their cipher suite list.
>
> So, a number of years ago (~1999) I worked for a registrar.
> We had a number of load balanced webservers, some doing http and others doing 
> SSL (for billing and such).
> One of our brighter sys-admin folk (lets call him Fred) notices one day that 
> the https servers always run hotter and can only handle around 1/2 the 
> connections as the plain http ones. This offends / puzzles him and so he 
> decides to make this the big project that will get him promoted...
>
> I'm not really paying much attention, but know that he's off muting with 
> Apache configs on the  SSL boxen (mainly because they keep falling out of the 
> load-balancer pool). After a week or two of dinking around he comes and shows 
> me some pretty graphs of how much better the load now is on the https 
> machines -- I nod, give him a pat on the head and go back to reading 
> slashdot….
>
> A few weeks later I'm running Ethereal / tcpdump to troubleshoot some issue 
> or other, and suddenly see some payload that looks suspiciouly like a credit 
> card number and name in plain-text…
>
> Guess what his optimization was… Yup, he tried every combination of things in 
> SSLCipherSuite and simply chose the one with the lest CPU...
>
> The fun bit was that browsers (I think Netscape / IE at the time) would 
> happily give you the lock icon…
>
> W
>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:34 PM,
>> <travis+ml-rbcryptogra...@subspacefield.org> wrote:
>>> I want to find common improper usages of OpenSSL library for SSL/TLS.
>>>
>>> Can be reverse-engineered from a "how to properly use OpenSSL" FAQ,
>>> probably, but would prefer information to the first point rather than
>>> its complement.
>>> --
>>> http://www.subspacefield.org/~travis/
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