I feel like people ended up talking past each other here. Google Groups, as a product, clearly found success from merging a web forum and an email list together. People use them both ways. I use plenty of Google Groups in email-only. It's sometimes nice to have a forum presentation.
I don't think it's controversial to suggest that mailman's web presentation is a terrible, outdated thing. But obviously, this list would never want to be part of a Google product (or anyone's product). We want to host our own. I also don't think it's controversial to suggest that most forum software is just as terrible and outdated. I've been distantly watching http://www.discourse.org and I like their vision. I believe they allow, or want to allow, email-only interaction. I don't know if it does, and I don't know if Discourse is easy to set up, or appropriate for the task. I do know that when people prioritize usability and accessibility over questions of centralization, I have no choice but to recommend they use Google Groups. It's crazy that I don't have a better alternative for this. librelist <http://librelist.com/> held promise, but stalled years ago. I want there to be an obvious and acceptable alternative that addresses some of Greg's basic points, because it should be okay to point out that email has disadvantages. Right now, I don't think there is one. This is a real gap I'd like to see the open source community fill. On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:26 AM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: > >Stick with the mailing list. If we are going to move anywhere, it > >should be toward something like a moderated Usenet newsgroup (if not > >actually moving to Usenet). > > Agreed. > > By the way, I gateway this list to a local newsgroup on my usenet > server and read it there. Moving to usenet wouldn't be hard, give or > take the hardness of people spinning up usenet clients. > > >> Also, do you enjoy not being able to edit your comments? > > Yes. It encourages me to think before sending. > > R's, > John > _______________________________________________ > cryptography mailing list > cryptography@randombit.net > http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography > -- konklone.com | @konklone <https://twitter.com/konklone>
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