At 12:57 06.11.02 -0800, Jay D. Dyson wrote: >On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Steven Soroka wrote: > >> Which prompts the question, what the hell for? Sounds like an >> incredible abuse of power. Do you think they have 20,000 warrants to >> back that up? If so, why is Germany so full of criminals? hehehe. > > One must keep in mind that Germany keeps closer tabs on what we in >the U.S. call "hate groups." While Germans enjoy many of the basic >liberties that we do (freedom of speech, freedom of association), their >government has limitations on such when it comes to extremist political >philosophies such as Nazism.
� 100 a of the German Code of Criminal Procedure regulates legitimacy of the Surveillance of Telecommunication http://gesetze-xxl.de/gesetze/stpo/p100a.htm (German) you may try babelfish (as usual with a good portion of caution) > As a consequence, those who make noises about supporting such >reactionary political views are far more likely to fall under state >surveillance. I'm sure that the net.surfing habits of a German citizen >also plays a role, considering Germany's blocking of a number of sites >across the world that are sympathetic to (or supportive of) fascism. only in Nordrhine-Westphalia and not yet followed by every ISP. Several providers brought a charge against the blocking order. > So it's not so much a matter of Germany having more criminals, but >that their government spends more time watching those who profess certain >ideas that ultimately got their nation bombed to rubble in the mid-1940s. With my bad English I translated a related paragraph of a article in the German newspaper "Frankfurter Rundschau". Meanwhile the URL below is dated: -> http://www.fr-aktuell.de/fr/101/t101005.htm --- snip --- Frankfurter Rundschau 31.10.02 Abgeh�rte sollten heimlichen Lauschangriff auch noch selbst zahlen Fehler auf der Telefonrechnung offenbart Betroffenen, dass sie �berwacht wurden / Panne �rgert die Ermittler Von Pitt von Bebenburg [..] Die Zahl der richterlich genehmigten Telefon�berwachungen war in den vergangenen Jahren deutlich angestiegen. Nach Angaben des Bundesjustizministeriums wurden im Jahr 2001 Abh�raktionen im Zusammenhang mit 3868 Verfahren genehmigt. Insgesamt 9122 Menschen und deren Telefonpartner wurden belauscht. Die Zahl der �berwachten Telefonanschl�sse liegt deutlich dar�ber, da viele Menschen mehrere Apparate besitzen. In mehr als der H�lfte der F�lle ging es um Drogenhandel. Weitere Delikte, wegen derer abgeh�rt wurde, betrafen den Handel mit Kriegswaffen und Raub-Straftaten. Hinzu kommen die Abh�raktionen der Geheimdienste. Nach Angaben des Parlamentarischen Kontrollgremiums belauschte das Bundesamt f�r Verfassungsschutz von Juli 2000 bis Juni 2001 bis zu 247 Menschen. --- snap --- --- snip --- Frankfurter Rundschau 31.10.02 Eavesdropped to pay their secret bugging operation by themself Error on phone bill reveals surveillance action to the persons concerned with / mishap annoys investigators From: Pitt von Bebenburg [..] The number of court ordered phone tappings increased clearly over the last years. According to the Federal Ministry of Justice in 2001 surveillance actions were approved in connection with 3868 legal proceedings. Altogether 9122 people and their phone partners were eavesdropped. The number of tapped subscriber lines lies distinctly beyond because many people own more phones. More than half of the cases are concerned with drug trafficking. Other offences that justify eavesdropping were trafficking of war weapons and robbery crimes. Surveillance actions of secret services are to be added. According to the parliamentary control body the Office for the Protection of the Constitution listens in on up to 247 people within July 2000 and June 2001. --- snap --- Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
