Not exactly on topic but to do with weapon mods.  Has anyone noticed that they 
cannot alter the alpha level of weapons since the new player model update?


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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:44 AM, Marcin Paterek <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I don't agree. Valve has the only method to reliably track StatTrak counters, 
> so creating similar system for skins shouldn't be _that_ impossible.
> 
> 2015-09-25 16:08 GMT+02:00 Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek 
> <[email protected]>:
>> How do you effectively accomplish anything? It's impossible. So is blocking 
>> these content exploits. The point is to concentrate effort into a solution 
>> that is at least as beneficial as breaking the game with fixes that can and 
>> will be worked around, a solution which also automatically accounts for 
>> other exploits and abusive behavior that has happened so far and will happen 
>> in the future.
>> You might as well whine about overwatch being useless then, because why not 
>> make cheats impossible instead, valve? The same issue.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25.09.2015 15:58, Team dotjsp wrote:
>>> How can you effectively blacklist every ws or knife server? Without going 
>>> by sv_tag?
>>> 
>>> Am 25.09.2015 15:51 schrieb "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" 
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> It's neither.
>>>> Plus, you can either have some exploit-fixes that don't work and break 
>>>> other useful things for EVERY single exploit there is, or you can just go 
>>>> ahead and focus on doing one task effectively, which is blacklisting 
>>>> servers.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25.09.2015 15:46, Marcin Paterek wrote:
>>>>> "just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin 
>>>>> without having it in your Inventory"
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's a good idea - simple and effective. Upvote :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-09-25 15:14 GMT+02:00 Team dotjsp <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> Or just dont do a Blacklist, just block the feature of changing the Skin 
>>>>>> without having it in your Inventory, I couldnt think of a way that would 
>>>>>> be any Problem for them. But after all it is what it is..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 25.09.2015 14:12 schrieb "Absurd Minds" <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> I have always hated cosmetic or "fun" plugins like skin plugins since I 
>>>>>>> first started playing 1.6, and I never even dreamed of using a knife 
>>>>>>> plugin on either of my two sourcemod servers, but what I hate 
>>>>>>> infinitely more than stupid skin plugins is how horrendously valve 
>>>>>>> executed their blacklist. Half the blacklisted servers weren't even 
>>>>>>> running the plugins, and I bet 2/3 of the servers that were running the 
>>>>>>> plugins haven't been blacklisted yet. Every time I drop into a random 
>>>>>>> community server it has these skin plugins.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Basically what I'm saying is that knife plugins don't effect me AT ALL 
>>>>>>> (my dream world includes valve fixing vote cvars on community servers 
>>>>>>> so I don't have to use sourcemod anymore at all), and I'm still 
>>>>>>> extremely pissed at how valve implemented this. They really need to 
>>>>>>> either back up their threat effectively, or they need to allow 
>>>>>>> community server owners to use the plugin again free of threat.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2015 7:55 AM, "Tom Devonport" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Last I checked, Valve said they were prohibited and started to ban 
>>>>>>>> servers with them (through sv_tags if I recall effectively). Wasn't 
>>>>>>>> particularly effective due to the false positives.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just face it, Valve doesn't care about community servers. They serve a 
>>>>>>>> tiny proportion of the CSGO playerbase. It isn't their priority. 
>>>>>>>> StatTraks are.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you guys got those new StatTrak Music Kits yet?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 at 12:47 Team dotjsp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is there any statement on VALVe's opinion about these kinds of 
>>>>>>>>> Plugins? I thought that the Plugin Developer himself discontinued to 
>>>>>>>>> have a Downlink for these kinds of Plugins up. Or is there some kind 
>>>>>>>>> of Takedown from VALVe, I didnt know about?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2015 13:32 schrieb "Michael Loveless" 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>> There are tons of servers out there still using both plugins and 
>>>>>>>>>> it's pretty shitty for those of us who stopped. I'm usually not for 
>>>>>>>>>> telling on others or getting                                         
>>>>>>>>>>     involved in other peoples business but for all of us innocent 
>>>>>>>>>> owners who had servers banned for any length of time while complying 
>>>>>>>>>> with the rules, I feel that now all server owners should be held 
>>>>>>>>>> accountable even if it means the rest of the community airing them 
>>>>>>>>>> out. We know Valve will take widespread action even if only a small 
>>>>>>>>>> number of communities are not in compliance. Do we really need to 
>>>>>>>>>> instigate Valve to make life harder on community owners than it 
>>>>>>>>>> already is? 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We already have a damn near non-existent drop rate and only $0.03 
>>>>>>>>>> cases 99% of the time. Every 3 updates the only administrative tools 
>>>>>>>>>> out there get broken (Love you SourceMod <3). No more early warning 
>>>>>>>>>> notices for owners but TF2 gets them and so does the HLDS mailing 
>>>>>>>>>> list for the old Half Life engine games that still get updates, 
>>>>>>>>>> which they do. We can't sit back and let a small number of community 
>>>>>>>>>> owners who think they are renegades ruin what little we have left. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If people don't want to be recognized for posting up other 
>>>>>>>>>> community's names, just sign up to this list on a different email 
>>>>>>>>>> and post. Then you won't have to worry                               
>>>>>>>>>>               about the shitty owners out there DDoSing you in 
>>>>>>>>>> retaliation. Let's get rid of them before they fuck us like they did 
>>>>>>>>>> to the good TF2 communities. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Ernesto Estrella 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> There’s still a server still using the !knife and !ws plugin. It’s 
>>>>>>>>>>> not fair for other servers that already removed them in respect for 
>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> HellsGamers Jailbreak server - 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/67.228.245.10:27015/
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> When you type sm plugins list, you can see the !knife plugin in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> shop.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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