You've already proven my point many times over. The end result is you either take the risk and use the plugins or don't worry about it as the probability of them never getting caught is extremely small.
People commenting on some people running the plugins is irrelevant. Either run them and take the risk or follow the rules and know you will not have to face the reprisals. -Calder Lewis > On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:21 PM, David Parker <dpar...@utica.edu> wrote: > > Not at the time you register your token. They can check to see if the plugin > is installed when SRCDS starts up, or on each map load for example. > > - Dave > >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Calder Lewis <lewis...@gmail.com> wrote: >> How would valve know you intend to put the plugin on the server when you >> register your token? >> >> -Calder Lewis >> >>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:10 PM, David Parker <dpar...@utica.edu> wrote: >>> >>> The major difference between Valve enforcing rules on dedicated servers and >>> police enforcing rules on the highway is the fact that Valve has full >>> control over many aspects of this issue. Police (usually) can't know that >>> you plan to break the law as soon as you start up your car, or start >>> driving down the street. Valve, however, has a set of rules which they >>> want to enforce on game servers and it seems to me like they could build >>> these rules into the server code itself, and make the server simply refuse >>> to start if any of the violations are detected (and even tell you what the >>> problem is so you can correct it *before* you get banned). Moreover, if >>> someone does manage to start a server which violates the rules, couldn't >>> the master servers detect this and at least refuse to list the server? It >>> seems odd to me that servers which are in clear violation of Valve's stated >>> rules are still able to be listed, queried, and played on because the >>> process for detecting violators is apparently manual. Seems like it should >>> be automated somehow, so the rules apply to everyone without human error >>> involved. >>> >>> Just my two cents. >>> >>> - Dave >>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Mathias Mortensen <uartigzo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> I have one Game Anti-DDoS OVH Dedicated Server. >>>> >>>> What can i do if i keep getting DDoS'ed? It just goes offline on steam, >>>> nothing else? new kind of attack or? And how can i stop it? >>>> >>>> Theese are 4 of the ips... >>>> >>>> IP rate limit under distributed packet load (1798 buckets, 3601 global >>>> count), rejecting 91.176.20.87:27015. >>>> IP rate limit sustained 11803 distributed packets at 196.7 pps (1628 >>>> buckets). >>>> IP rate limit under distributed packet load (1801 buckets, 3601 global >>>> count), rejecting 218.0.149.137:27015. >>>> IP rate limit sustained 11846 distributed packets at 197.4 pps (1632 >>>> buckets). >>>> IP rate limit under distributed packet load (1828 buckets, 3601 global >>>> count), rejecting 161.138.196.38:27015. >>>> IP rate limit sustained 12068 distributed packets at 201.1 pps (1651 >>>> buckets). >>>> IP rate limit under distributed packet load (1812 buckets, 3601 global >>>> count), rejecting 193.184.4.136:27015. >>>> >>>> 2016-06-08 18:59 GMT+02:00 Calder Lewis <lewis...@gmail.com>: >>>>> Valve is/are the police. They don't catch everyone but that is the risk. >>>>> If the profit is greater than the risk go ahead and put the plugins back, >>>>> but I do not see the value for me to put those plugins on any of my >>>>> servers. >>>>> >>>>> -Calder >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Risk <risk-to-free...@wp.pl> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> W dniu 2016-06-08 o 18:26, Calder Lewis pisze: >>>>>>> Listen, >>>>>>> This is like speeding on the highway. Do you do it? Most people yes. >>>>>>> Why because the chance of getting caught will be to have to pay a fine. >>>>>>> In our case, GSLT tokens are banned. If you are willing to take the >>>>>>> risk of your token being banned, use the plugin, but if not then don't >>>>>>> worry. You are using risk analysis and deciding to not use the plugins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Calder Lewis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Absurd Minds <goabs...@absurdminds.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They're prohibited, but I agree that valve needs to step up the >>>>>>>> counter measures. There are still so many servers with skin plugins. >>>>>>>> It's frustrating to have people join my server, type !knife, say "gay" >>>>>>>> and then immediately leave. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I mean, if all they care about is skins, they probably don't play >>>>>>>> competitively enough to be in my server in the first place, but it's >>>>>>>> still hard to not be frustrated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2016 12:13 PM, "Risk" <risk-to-free...@wp.pl> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Good morning, >>>>>>>>> A year ago, was the information on the prohibition of the use of >>>>>>>>> counterfeiting player's inventory? >>>>>>>>> It was created token? >>>>>>>>> It created application servers that are abusing this rule? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What has been done on this year? >>>>>>>>> NOTHING. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Network servers are all completely somewhere, one of those involved >>>>>>>>> in the creation of the servers does not pay attention to the ban. Why >>>>>>>>> is this happening? >>>>>>>>> There were maybe 3-4 waves bans on IP or token. >>>>>>>>> Has anyone took this? No, generate a new token that moment. These >>>>>>>>> developers have several accounts steam. Each of the accounts of >>>>>>>>> tokens, prepared the unit if a bummer! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Punish you where you can see exactly .. Look at the top 50 servers, >>>>>>>>> according to GT. >>>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?&searchipp=50#search >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We are looking for: >>>>>>>>> !knife result 13 >>>>>>>>> !ws result 10 >>>>>>>>> 30% of servers with top uses prohibited plugins! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But let's see how things look on? GT's search under the word !knife, >>>>>>>>> !ws, siny, kosy: >>>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=%21ws&searchipp=50#search >>>>>>>>> 9 pages of 50 results, or 450 servers ws >>>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=%21knife&searchipp=50#search >>>>>>>>> 9 pages of 50 results, just 450 servers knife. Practically the same >>>>>>>>> servers. >>>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=skiny&searchipp=50#search >>>>>>>>> 200 results for the word skiny >>>>>>>>> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=kosy&searchipp=50#search >>>>>>>>> 200 results for the word kosy >>>>>>>>> About 600 servers is prohibited plugins! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would ask for a clear definition of the rules and to take >>>>>>>>> appropriate steps in this matter. >>>>>>>>> Or skins and knife are permitted or prohibited! >>>>>>>>> I'm sorry for my English, translate google >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>>>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> Yes, but whether on the highway has no control? Is there a highway on >>>>>> which during the year, police checked the speed of Commerce and maybe >>>>>> three or four times a year? >>>>>> >>>>>> In my country there is practically no motorways are expressways, and >>>>>> going this way in many places waiting police car, checking the speed of >>>>>> cars. >>>>>> It is not always every day, not always in the same place. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Parker >>> Systems Administrator >>> Utica College >>> Integrated Information Technology Services >>> (315) 792-3229 >>> Registered Linux User #408177 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers > > > > -- > Dave Parker > Systems Administrator > Utica College > Integrated Information Technology Services > (315) 792-3229 > Registered Linux User #408177 > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
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